Saturday, October 04, 2008

Coleman Loses; Guerrero Remains Undefeated!

It was one down and one up in Salisbury tonight. Baltimore welterweight Tim "Pit Bull" Coleman lost a close 10-round unanimous decision to undefeated James "King" De La Rosa of Harlingen, TX tonight at the Wicomico Youth and Civic Center in Salisbury, MD.

De La Rosa won the bout 96-94 on all three scorecards (judges were Gary Camponeschi, Kenny Chevalier and John Gradowski.)

The loss sends Coleman's record to 14-1-1, three KO's. De La Rosa is now 18-0, 12 KO's.

Salisbury middleweight Fernando Guerrero went the distance for the first time in his young pro career. However, Guerrero excited the hometown fans by winning a dominant eight-round unanimous decision over Tyrone "T.T." Watson of Pittsburgh, PA.

Guerrero pitched a shutout on all three of the judges's scorecards. Camponeschi and Gradowski scored the bout 80-72 while judge Malik Waleed saw the bout 80-71.

Guerrero is now 10-0, nine KO's while Watson falls to 7-1, three KO's.

(I was unable to attend this card in person, so no post-fight wrap tonight. Thanks to Tom Luffman for the report on the Mayes-Williams draw.)

55 comments:

Anonymous said...

I was in attendance tonight and also it was my first time being at a live boxing event and let me tell you that i havent had that much fun in awhile! The crowd was amazing! And backed Fernando 110%. He gave us a amazing and fun fight to watch and i hope he comes back!

He's boxed with my cousin and they are best of friends for the past 6 years and he also attended Fernando's first pro fight.

Buddy- Salisbury,MD

ACW said...

NICE showing by Guerrero (anyone know why Waleed scored it 80-71?) and MAJOR props to Watson for going the distance.

Coleman-De La Rosa was close. Note to the ring announcer: make sure you announce the CORRECT name as the winner.

Anonymous said...

Gary, Tim had a great accounting for himself,he was backing DelaRosa up in the begining rounds and landed some great shots,but it wasn't enough.The ring announcer began to read Tims name and they ofcourse began to celebrate then he corrected himself and then read the right name.It was the same kind of mistake I made with "Black Ice" Comings at Martin's West awhile back.I had a great time,it was a great show,and I was grateful to have worked the undercard.
Brad Dudley the Auctioneer

Anonymous said...

anyone know why discombobulatin' jones wasn't the ring announcer? he woulda done better than that guy, that's fer sure! U shoulda pushed for that middendorf.

Anonymous said...

Thanks to the blogger for the plug but the reality is that most promoters have their favorites. I tried to get this gig for me and Brad (congrats for getting the undercard Auctioneer...and I'm now confident you could have handled the televised portion too!) In fact, Don King kicks Buffer to the curb for Jimmy Lennon, Jr., whose late father "helped" King when he first got in the game back in the day, so loyalty wins out almost everytime. Brad, our day is coming, just stay the course my friend. That was a good experience for you, with many more to come. Peace.....

ACW said...

Brad: Coleman won rounds 1-3, but got caught with the body shot(s) in round 4; that caused the momentum shift. Close fight though, and I'd not mind seeing a rematch.

Anonymous said...

Congrats...Fernando Sorry we could not attend, we wanted to be there and It was great seeing you on tv

Sydnee and Anthony Thompson

Anonymous said...

I watched on ShoBox and had the exact same reaction as above, "Why isn't Henry Jones announcing this show?"

I had two big problems with the announcer. One is the obvious, starting to announce the wrong winner. But the other was his VERY pregnant pause before the announcement, presumably to build suspense. (This wasn't a beat, this was nearly a station break.)A good announcer wouldn't do that, especially when the crowd favorite (Coleman) had lost.

To build the crowd up like that just to disappointment them is bad form, and to mistakenly announce the wrong winner of the main event is plain unprofessional. Henry Jones is a professional, and the national audience deserved nothing less.

But on the positive side, what a show! Whoever did the matchmaking (I think it was Chris Middendorf but am not sure) gave the ShoBox audience their subscription price and then some. Both of the main bouts were competitive and exciting. The fighters' styles complemented each other well for a truly entertaining double-feature.

The announced attendance was over 6,000, which is particularly impressive since I'm sure more than a few who would have bought tickets opted out to watch at home. I'm just waiting for ESPN, Showtime, HBO or even Versus to start picking up the Patriot Center shows.

Anonymous said...

Ring Announcer JD is tyhe long standing announcer for Priz Fight one of the co-promoters of the vent. As Baltimore Boxing was the name promoter he used the Auctioneer for the undercard. There were no politics, nor did I have a say as these promoters ae loyal to their longstanding and quality ring announcers.

Anonymous said...

what was pannella doing in the ring? first and only time ever seen a state commissioner standing with his puss in the camera. only in maryland.

Anonymous said...

Sorry for my spelling mistakes- Prize Fight was the copromoter of the event! It was a long night!
What a showing for Salisbury Maryland and for the state of boxing in the area. With the economy in the tank and HBO and Showtime soon to announce cuts in their boxing budgets, everyone has been saying we should all run for cover. I think that the appeal of good club shows with competitive fights, good music, food and ring card girls will continue to draw good crowds. This was not a club show of course, but it showed a tremendous fan base for a young fighter. Maryland is busy this fall with solid shows all around and good crowds at all the events. The ability of promoters to develop young talent in club shows and regional events like the show in Salisbury is the backbone of the sport and bodes well for the development of Beltway fighters in the future.

Anonymous said...

Acw, your are right that fourth round body shot and the subsequint body work carried the day for De la Rosa. Tim did make him pay for every punch with some good counters,there just wasn't enough steam left at the end. Brad

Anonymous said...

How about guerrero and Jesse fight for a belt yeah that will be a good one

Linda "Great Shot" Siadys said...

SHUT UP funny clown! Why would anyone with ANY sense suggest that?

Anonymous said...

What do you know about boxing photo Linda you shut up jesse beat him twice when they were young funny face

Linda "Great Shot" Siadys said...

okay, well then let them get it on I would absolutely love to see that fight!

Linda "Great Shot" Siadys said...

Shoot, you got me before my coffee. I know enough to know that just because 2 younguns sparred once back in the day doesn't mean they will necessarily fight each other today. Why would SHOBOX Guererro fight Jessie? What would he gain? Will Jessie even be able to fight after 11/1? (Just kidding on that one, no harm meant).:)

Anonymous said...

jessie would neve even consider fighting fernando. if he did, he would not last one round.

Anonymous said...

ya crazy Jessie-fernando would be an AWESOME fight. They fought a couple times as amatures.

Linda "Great Shot" Siadys said...

:}

Ya'll stop messin' w Jess...he's got some tigers in that tank. I am sure he will bring them all 11/1!

This boxing fan can't wait!

Anonymous said...

Panella does a great job in this State, drawing very little attention to himself. A national show is a big deal and Panella has every right to be in the ring.

Anonymous said...

Pat only enters the ring for 2 reasons,1,if a fighter appears to be hurt he usually is in before the doctor, and 2, to corect a procedural mistake,ie,Wrong annoucement,mis-informations or to give any instruction to judges,trainers,or promoters.He is always strictly business.
BD

Anonymous said...

pannella is the first commissioner that I have ever seen in the ring during the ring announcemnents or the decision. it looked like he just wanted to get his face on tv. even on the big tv fights you never see the nevada commissioner in the ring.

Gary Digital Williams said...

Larry Hazzard used to be in the ring all the time when he led New Jersey. When Marc Ratner was the Executive Director in Nevada, he was in the ring constantly.

This was one of the few times I've seen Pannella in the ring.

Linda "Great Shot" Siadys said...

Believe me I started out NOT a Pannella fan. But as I see more being so close to the ring. I say this about the MD Commish...

He cares. That man really cares to the 'NTH degree with everything involved with any fight in MD.

I think he does a great job and should be given credit.

Don't just measure what you see inside the ropes, but laud who has given life's heart/soul/blood around them.

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Anonymous said...

At least when he is in the ring he doesn't look like a deer in the headlights like that DC commissioner. Or incite a huge embarrassing controversy on National TV.

Anonymous said...

Jessie would beat fernado.

Anonymous said...

I talked to Pat Pannella after the fight. The only reason he jumped up into the ring was to make sure the ring announcer got the name correct after starting to say the wrong fighters name.

I echo Linda's sentiments... Pat deeply cares about and loves Maryland boxing.

Anonymous said...

he better care deeply and love Maryland boxing... he is the commissioner for goodness sake. what, you think that a commissioner lasts long if he does not care for maryland boxing or wherever, give us a break. the world is full of caring and loving people and we are glad for that. but that should only be a small part of why someone does their job. they should also do it because they are consumate professionals and are able to run twenty to thirty shows a year, have the ability to promote boxing in the state to promoters around the world and encourage them to come in, know how to develop and run the diverse group of personalities that make up the state's judges and referees, and not be so taken with themselves or the politics of what they do that they cannot always put their professionalism first.

Anonymous said...

much ado about nothing
Bill shakes

Linda "Great Shot" Siadys said...

"they should also do it because they are consumate professionals and are able to run twenty to thirty shows a year, have the ability to promote boxing in the state to promoters around the world and encourage them to come in, know how to develop and run the diverse group of personalities that make up the state's judges and referees, and not be so taken with themselves or the politics of what they do that they cannot always put their professionalism first.

I wish that is what I said! As far as I know he hits those marks, but it's not something that was ever on my radar. I was just offering my perspective, which was not nearly as on the mark and eloquent as yours.

Anonymous said...

Pat Panella ant know good he got feet and little brain and he talk to much he always have nothing to say

Linda "Great Shot" Siadys said...

Sounds like you guys could spoon if what you say is true...Stop stokin' anon.

Anonymous said...

It is interesting that we have never had this sort of discussion regarding the state of the State before. But since there seems to be an interest, let me weigh in with some numbers:

In 2007, Virginia did 16 shows, Maryland did 18 shows and Pennsylvania did 38 shows.
In 2008, Virginia has done 10 shows, Maryland has done 14 and Pennsylvania has done 31.

Each of these commissions is basically a one man operation. We will toss Virginia out of the discussion as they have virtually no medical requirements and just compare Maryland and Pennsylvania, which both require blood and eye tests.

In Pennsylvania, most fights, the weigh in is handled by Greg Sirb, alone (excluding a doctor). He does all the licensing, reviews all the medicals, reviews each of the contracts, does a pay sheet for the promoter, and weighs the fighters in. This is usually done within ninety minutes.

In Maryland, Pannella is accompanied by at least two officials (as well as two doctors). Those officials handle all the paperwork with each fighter. The fighters after going through that process which usually takes two hours at a minimum are then weighed in by Pannella, with one of the officials by his side verifying the data. The usual length of weighins runs three hours (and this has been verified with several fighters and a guy who works for a promoter at the weighins).

Pennsylvania averages at least ten televised fights per year, ESPN, Versus, CN8 and Fox. Maryland has had one ShoBox (last week), and two ESPN shows in the last ten years.

Does the Beltway have as good a talent pool as PA? Yes. Does the Beltway have as many boxing fans as PA? Absolutely. Do we have as many promoters as PA? No.

So one has to ask, why do fewer promoters want to do shows in Maryland?

My suggestion would be that the environment created by the State Athletic Commission is not conducive to attracting new promoters and to working with the local promoters to support them in their efforts in a very tough business.

Any thoughts?

Linda "Great Shot" Siadys said...

Shoot, 41...Why didn't you just lay this down to begin with. I am not in your league at all with this. My response was to a simple question about Mr. Pannella being in the ring. Your arguments seems to extend even further than your last post.

I stand by what I said (as a ringside photog) that he seems to be a good commish. I base that on my observations in DC/MD/PA/VA. Truth be known I am truly over my head with this one and hope more knowing and credible can weigh in.

Linda "Great Shot" Siadys said...

I stand by what I said (as a ringside photog) that he IS a good commish. I base that on my observations in DC/MD/PA/VA

Gary Digital Williams said...

Right now, Maryland has two steady, proven promoters (Ballroom Boxing and Baltimore Pro Boxing), one start-up promotion (Better Promotions) and two promoters who do occasional shows, but who have had success (Keystone Boxing and Bobby Magruder)

That's five total that have or plan to have shows on a consistent basis. Not bad at all, in my opinion.

As far as Pannella goes, first, a brief technicality. Patrick Pannella is actually the Executive Director of the Maryland Commission, holding the same title that Marc Ratner once held in Nevada. David Norman is the head of the Commission.

However, Pannella is the man with the boxing knowledge. Some say he is hard to deal with, but I'll say this. I know no one who knows as much about the sport, who has the position he holds and loves the sport more than Patrick Pannella.
He is a stickler for detail because he wants to get everything right. I feel the MSAC would be in deep trouble if Pannella was not there.

Very similar to the DC Commission without Gilbert Ware and I'll leave it at that.

Anonymous said...

No one and certainly not in my post was there any suggestion of changing the person in charge in Maryland. I was making observations about the boxing program in Maryland as compared to Pennsylvania. The fact is that he has been there a long time and I am not sure that there has been much growth in boxing in the state. If he was running a company and its growth was stagnant over a period of time, the stockholders of the corporation might be concerned and might either get rid of him or try to light a fire under him to do some different types of things to try and grow the program.
And Linda, in terms of your kind comments about the commish and the job that he does in comparison to Virgia and DC, I agree. he does a fine job in comparison to them. Heck if he was not doing a better job than DC then it would be really embarassing, because their poor performances recently have virtually guaranteed that no television network will come to DC anytime soon. And Virginia basically operates as a state without a commission.. They have no medical requirements and they have no concern about mismatches. They do not care who fights whom. They leave that up to the promoter and that is why so many of their fights are a joke. You get much more balanced and fair fights in Maryland then in Virginia and that is because Panella cares.Not that he really knows anything about the sport, but he does care.
But Linda, it is as though you would vote for Palin because she was a good governor in Alaska, where most people would consider her unqualified to run the country!

Linda "Great Shot" Siadys said...

This is getting beyond strange,

Anyone who knows me knows I have not a political or religious bone in my body.

I don't know what your agenda is, but DO NOT couple it with me!

Anonymous said...

Forty one, with all due respect doesn't Pa have more population compared to Md.I think it is an unfair comparison,I am not sure of the #s because they are not in front of me but I would say that Philly and Pittsburg alone would have more shows.Scott and Jake do fine with the amount of gyms and talent that is here.As far as your remark about Pat not knowing the sport,you couldn't be any further from the truth.Ask any trainer promoter,and boxer that has had to deal with Pat and they will tell you .I strongly suggest that you talk with him and you will find out just how much he does know.If boxing in Maryland was a company as you refered, than at least we have steady employment and have not lost gound.In today's economy that says enough.I also think that this forum has had enough bad commentary ,that we don't need to drag the election in this.How are we doing compared to Deleware?
Brad Dudley....the Auctioneer

Linda "Great Shot" Siadys said...

Ah, drinking my coffee and rereading your remarks 41.

First off and with absolutely no respect to you, are you completely whacked or what?
The fact is that he has been there a long time and I am not sure that there has been much growth in boxing in the state. I just came from the most well attended (and a SHOBOX fight, so imagine how many people saw it) I have ever been too, if not in numbers then certainly in spirit in MARYLAND! The last 3 fights over the last 2 months I have attended have been in "DRUM ROLL" MARYLAND!

If anyone sounds like Palin it's you, with your stupid assertions with NO thought or factual merit.

So back off and go to a flipping rally or something. Unless you can bring some worthwhile statements, keep your stupid shit to yourself.

Anonymous said...

From my perspective as a matchmaker, I would say that over the last fifteen years that the Beltway area has produced more top talent than PA. I may be wrong, but it just seems like we have had more world champions and more North American champions come out of our gyms that the great State of PA.
PA. Champs (world and NA)- Spadafora, Hopkins, Brewer- who else?
Beltway- Joppy, Holmes, Too Sharp,Chop Chop, Bowe, Pettway Reggie Green, Coley, Reid, Pearson, the Petersons, Council,and I am sure that there are more.
Help fill in the blanks and see how we stack up. I will email Russell Peltz and ask him for a list of PA champs.

Anonymous said...

here is the list from Russell Peltz:
Hopkins
Steve Cunningham IBF cruiser
Demetrius Hopkins NABF 140
Koba Gogoladze NABO 130
Rogers Mtagwa USBA and NABF featherweight champ
Mike Jones NABA welter current
Charles Brewer IBF 168
Meldrick Taylor IBF 140, WBA 147
Yusef Mack NABA 175

It is interesting to compare the Philly fighters to the Beltway. Any thoughts?

Anonymous said...

Hey Chris lets throw in Rahman in for the hell of it. To bad he couldn't have had one of his Championship fights here.

Gary Digital Williams said...

In that same 15-year period, the Beltway has had:

10 World champions (Vincent Pettway, Keith Holmes, William Joppy, Sharmba Mitchell, Mark Johnson, Hasim Rahman, Eric Aiken, DeMarcus Corley, Isra Girgrah and Lisa Foster)

Multiple regional champs (Darryll Tyson, Reggie Green, Derrell Coley, Jimmy Lange, Anthony and Lamont Peterson, Lamont Pearson, Darnell Wilson and Emmanuel Nwodo. Plus Aiken, Rahman, Corley and Mitchell all won regional titles.

That speaks for itself.

Gary Digital Williams said...

Add Tony Thompson to the regional list.

Anonymous said...

That is why I threw it open to the blog. I knew Digital would bail me out!!

Anonymous said...

3 More for MD

Ismail Arvin Junior Middleweight USBO Title which was later stripped

Mark Chang Welterweight NABC Title

Daniel Attah Super Featherweight
WBO NABO Title

Linda "Great Shot" Siadys said...

How about some predictions for the next 15 years?

I predict Fernando Guerrero and Dusty Harrison will put some belts in the beltway.

Anonymous said...

20 More for PA

Kermit Cintron Welterweight
IBF World
NABF
WBC World Youth
Interim WBO

Lajuan Simon
USBA Middleweight
UBA Super Middleweight
NBA JR Intercontinental Super Middleweight

Zahir Raheem
WBC International Lightweight
NABA Featherweight

Willie Gibbs
USBA Middleweight

Ivan Robinson Lightweight
NABF
USBA

Verquan Kimbrough Lightweight
NABA
IBC
USBA

Monty Meza Clay Super Featherweight
IBA
IBC

Rasheim Jefferson
USNBC Super Featherweight

Eddie Chambers Heavyweight
IBU
USBA

Rayco Saunders
NABC Cruiserweight

Dhafir Smith
WBF Light Heavyweight

Rasheem Brown
Tri-State Super Middleweight

Brian Minto
WBA Fedecentro Heavyweight

Michael Grant Heavyweight
NABF
IBC

Robert Hawkins
IBU Heavyweight

Harry Joe Yorgey
IBF International Middleweight
IBF North American Middleweight
IBU World Junior Middleweight

Derrick Ennis Junior Middleweight
USBA Atlantic Coast Regional

Aslambek Kodzoev Middleweight
WBC Intercontinental
WBC World Youth

Ray Narh
NABC Lightweight

Tyric Robinson Light Welterweight
USBA Atlantic Coast Regional
USBA Northern Regional

Anonymous said...

Linda, Please look at it from a little different perspective. The fact that you came to the Show Box fight says that as a photographer you were part of the event, Then can we say that your being there was why the show was successful. Only a handful of people know the inner workings of what went on leading up to the show and during the show. Just because someone is attached to a show doesn't automatically make them the reason for the success. Some are major factors other are small factors of success and some are detriments that have to be overcome. Yet once it's over they can all say "I'm responsible" Believe me if it didn't go off those same people would run scared saying it was thier fault. A very small group of people worked relentlessly to insure the success of this show. They know who they are. Then there are the ones that jumped on top of all that work and claimed it was their involvement for the success. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I too might not have believed it. Your innocent assessment of the situation is admirable,,,but it is 180 degrees WRONG. Sadly, only those that did contribute know the real deal. Chris Middendorf has been a controversial figure on this blog, but in this situation, he is right on track and even some of his staunchest rivals has had to cross over and band with him, that what he says is is the truth.

Linda "Great Shot" Siadys said...

You are talking in riddles. People please read what I say before you respond. I don't appreciate words being put in my mouth. I never countered anything Chris said (and don't know what you are referring to. It would be helpful if you could provide quotes). I commented on someone questioning Pat Pannella's presence in the ring that evening.

Another example of misquoting me... And Linda, in terms of your kind comments about the commish and the job that he does in comparison to Virginia and DC, I agree. he does a fine job in comparison to them. I wasn't comparing him to them, I was just saying that I have observed DC/MD/VA/PA commissioners in action, and that is my reference that I based my comments on. I have often said I thought VA commish and his assistant Tracy do an outstanding job at the fights of organizing everything from start to finish. I have only seen Jason Turner at the helm at a couple of fights, so I think he needs more time to be seasoned, so don't think it fair to judge him yet. He has spoken of some very promising changes and increased boxing/MMA in DC and I am hoping that becomes a reality.

Ultimately, I was very proud that I was able to photograph this fight. It was one of the best I ever witnessed, and in no way want to detract from it in any way. Really doesn't matter as I am just a photographer. I have always felt welcome to comment on this blog and have enjoyed the camaraderie, and debates and have learned much here.

These are my opinions. A different perspective. Take them or leave them. I am sure some are off the mark. Boxing is so much more than just 2 fighters in the ring. At least to me. I find everything about it fascinating from trainers, cutmen, promoters, fans, locations...just everything.

I seem to be getting more debate over everything I say lately, so perhaps it's time I just stopped.

Anonymous said...

Gary / Chris

Do you have a response to the 20 additional PA Champs?

Gary Digital Williams said...

Only that a lot of those guys have lesser-known regional titles (IBC, IBA) The majority of the Beltway Guys have had regional titles that have connections to the major governing bodies.

And we've had 13 world titles since 1986, 12 of those came in the last 15 years.