Moments ago, BATB spoke to a source within the Virginia Department of Licensing and Regulations, the body that governs Boxing and Wrestling as well as Mixed Martial Arts in the Commonwealth.
The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that there are no, repeat, NO plans to replace David Holland as chair of the commission.
"There are a couple of people who would like to see Holland go," says the source. "He's had difficulties with promoters in the past, but there are no plans to replace him. He's not going anywhere."
Tuesday, June 29, 2010
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That's was he thinks! As the saying goes, ignorance is bliss! And ole DH has got plenty of both! Asta la vista Davey!
Ole DH, swelling up! Showing some balls, making a stand! I'm not going anywhere he says! Calls the source themselves in BATB and says "I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE!" When I read this I can only think of something I learned in church long ago:
PRIDE GOETH BEFORE THE FALL!
And for those of you who haven't been in church for a while what that means is the next step after being all puffed up with arrogance could be falling flat on your face. It means that one becomes over confident and stops thinking sensibly when engorged with a feeling of power. It goes to one's head and is a sure indication of the fact that a person is bound to suffer or face disappointment because of the wrong decisions that he or she might make. In other words too much arrogance and self pride are sure to bring bad and disappointing results. This idiom is also given as an example to prove that when a person is destined to fail or fall, which is decided by the almighty God, then no one can stop that person from taking the wrong step and making a wrong decision, despite the fact that apparently that person is not expected to do such a thing under normal conditions. By even acknowledging some of these comments, DH has probably just sealed his own fate.
Signed,
"SUPERSTAR" Billy Graham
"It's getting hot in here, so hot, so take off all your clothes"
Nelly
Hmmm seem's to me alot of you got a firm idea of whats going to happen to ole'DH, Davey..when we speak of "ignorance" that also mirrors "cowards" with out proper names on there statements, don't be afraid, since you seem to know so much, where are we getting this information?? who Are the ones who make these insinuations? The Bible also states that" if your hand off ends the, cut it off" since we are such big christians, and we know so much, in between the lines it says if thy mouth offends the little brain your thinking with pull it out your ass....
Sounds like someones alligator mouth is overloading there tweety bird ass...to be continued....for such a crooked sport so much christian comments, and you say you have "seen the light" mabey we need to go to the book of "revelations"..because your not seeing the real thing...
Why is everything here said under anonymus....are you ball less or just scared be a man or woman, if you got something to say and you are passionate about your opinion, put your name on it, were all here for the same reason, it's opinions, what up..we know who everyone is...just in grammer and knowledge, some talk with a education...like Joe...It is very obvious when he is giving out his opinion, Scott Farmer ....he tries to get the point across that nobody understands how hard it is to promote..Asim..is for real he signs his name..then you got the boxers it's obvious who they are..they can be upfront Cujo..I'm with you guy..lets grow some ball people ...we know who is talking..
Davey boy is not going anywhere.
Period,end of story,notta,Talk to you tomorrow Dave.
This is what has been confusing me about you guys and the comments you are making about Dave Holland....... What exactly does the commissioner do that make you blame him for the state of boxing in the Beltway area?? I enjoy boxing but haven't been involved in the business side so I really don't know.
It's just odd to me when you say he makes "screw-ups" and "mistakes"... All they do is sanction fights right??.... Isn't the rest up to the actual promoters??
I may be dead wrong because like I said, I have never been involved with the business side of boxing but I just don't understand why Dave Holland is being called "worthless" when his job at the most seems minimal and delegated to signing papers once they cross his desk.
Does anybody have any reasons why he should be removed??..... What exactly has he done wrong?? As I said before, I am not involved with the business side of the sport (I am only a spectator) so I really don't know.
Well you sound like the same person who posted your comment on the previous post about farewell to ballroom boxing report. He makes rules as he goes along and as they are fit for him. Look at my response to that post.
I don't comment on here anymore. It's not me.
Signed,
You know who
What's this fight all about?
Jonathan Reid (34-12, 19 KOs) of Nashville, TN vs. Larry Brothers (7-33-3, 5 KOs) of Washington, DC
I got this from Fightnews.com and it's on the Jimmy Lang card.
That is a late addition, but yes, according to the info I received (that didn't come from fightnews), that bout is on the card.
Gary,
I have been to a few boxing events this year, and I plan on going to the Boxing Event at the Patriot Center in July.
Which Boxing event in the DC Metro Area/Baltimore has been the most entertaining.
So Far, the Boxing Event at the Du Burns Arena (Nicklow V. Sigmon) along with the undercards have my vote.
The other event at DuBurns is a personal strong second because my friend made her Pro-Debut.
Hey Bill,
I would agree with that if I had to give an event of the half year with the Shields-Lange bout earlier this year as a close second.
The Nicklow-Sigmon and James Stevenson-George Rivera bouts had so much hype surrounding them and then they both lived up to that hype. Right now, that's definitely the card of the year.
Thanks Gary!
I went to that Card at the Patriot Center (Lange V. Shields) Only because I have Friends of mine on the Under-Cards.
And enjoyed the main event for once!!!
Was it ever reported that Dave Holland's job was in jeopardy?
This reminds me of the stories that run from time to time with Placido Domingo insisting that he is perfectly happy at the DC Opera and has no desire to become head of The Met.
Doth protestith too much!
Regarding Jonathan Reid vs. Larry Brothers. Unless Brothers brings a lot more to the ring than he had against Anthony Bonsante at the Patriot Center, Brothers shouldn't even be in the ring.
It sounds like a confidence booster for Reid, who has had a string of well-fought losses following his Contender appearance. For as much as Reid was supposed to be a pushover for Jimmy Lange, I thought that Reid's performance was one of the most spirited defeats that I've seen in a long time.
Larry watch out, Chrissy said he is going to rip you off again Champ! You Da Champ! Marty Wynn knows how to manage - manage to rip off everyone! Go Marty you Da Champ!
I saw Jonathan Reid Spar a few days ago.
And he is ready to bring it.
I like the fact that he throws a hell of a punch to the body.
I have a question? Why would the VA Boxing Commission even sanction a bout like this based on the records of both Boxers?
Under what circumstances will the VA Boxing Commission Reject/refuse to allow a boxer to box in the State of Virginia.
I am sure that I can visit the website that has been mentioned in previous threads, but I am Lazy and wish to start an open and honest dialog.
Signed
Lazy
Love it Dave says "bite me guys I'm not going anywhere" how do you swallow that, gotta love Dave..lol.hey Joe wasnt Davey that helped you become the east coast promoter of the year, promoters say he set you up as a matchmaker? with the northern VA. promoter ? held your hand an guided you into the promoting business sounds like you should be humbled that guy wanted you to make it, you did a few crappy showes and wanna blame someone else....eat crow jerk your on your way down looser-from looking thru the crystal ball
And still...... I have yet to have an answer/reaspm on why people want Dave Holland replaced.
Seems to me like it's a lot of finger pointing going on and because he is in a position of power, he is getting blamed although like I said before, "his position is seemingly delegated to signing papers once they cross his desk".
I am still trying to figure out why so many people think because one person writes that Dave Holland is on his way out that it is in fact true.It was just one person who is pissed off at Dave Holland who wanted to try to smear his name.Anybody can do what I'm doing right now and write anything they want on this site.Anything written that is negative about somebody is taken Hook,Line,and sinker and you people feed off it like a bunch of piranahs in a feeding frenzie
while anything written on a posative note is almost ignored.
Signed
Your Big Daddy
And you're not going to get your answer here at BATB. But, I will tell you this, ole DH cancelling that show this past weekend at Norfolk Scope had a lot to do with this! DH - stop fishing for answers on this website, we know it's you writing those things. You will find your answers soon enough. Asta la vista Davey!
^^^ LMAO...... I STILL have yet to have an answer but I do have a fresh accusation of me being Dave Holland.. Had a conversation with Gary over facebook last night and he will confirm that I am not Dave Holland.
And STILL..... I have to have a reason of why people want him out. You guys seem so animated and borderline excited that he is on his way out and that he keeps making mistakes, but only one person has told me something he has done wrong.
Because as I said before..... It seems to me, his position is delegated to signing papers once they cross his desk
And STILL..... I don't have an answer/reason of why people want him practically "beheaded" but now I have been accused of BEING Dave Holland.... LMAO..... I had a conversation with Gary and told him I was the one posting these comments so he can confirm that I am NOT Dave Holland...... Wow!
And STILL..... I don't have an answer/reason of why Dave Holland should be replaced. Personally, I don't care if he is or he is not BUT, if you are going to slander this man's name and attempt to crush his reputation, at least have some sort of reasons, evidence, and/or explanations. Don't just say shit for the sake of typing.
AND...... Like I told you, you will not get your answers here so stop fishing for them DH or DH's cronie!
Did not mean to post the same thing three times.
I am just a spectator who really could care less but it pisses me off when people you like hop on bandwagons and don't know why they are riding.
I have asked for a reason he should be replaced from you 4 different times and still you ain't saying SHIT!!!!
All I want is one reason..... ONE REASON..... And still NOTHING!!!.... It seems to me like I said, he is getting blamed for things that are out of control. It's up to promoters to make shows, not him. Nothing he can do but SIGN PAPERS!!
You have actually proven my point of people pointing fingers at him for no reason because here I am, asking for one single reason...... and you haven't said SHIT!!!
Fishing for answers??.... All I want is one reason dude should be removed and you can't provide me with one... You have officially made a fool out of yourself.
You are not correct in your assumptions.It is supposed to be up to the promoter to promote the show especially the night of the show but it just doesn't happen that way in the state of Virginia.
The officials come in the night of the show and start telling the Promoter and all his help what doors they can come out of and where they have to put their dressing rooms and how much time they have to get to the ring and they are yelling and screaming at everybody in the dressing Room.
I am suprised that some of these officials haven't been knocked out
and left in the dressing room to be found by their feerless leader.
Some of the officials are former fighters but all except one
(Joe Cooper)that have been fighters are the ones that carry themselves appropiatley.Guess it's because they have been there.
But even Joe seems to be calming down.There was an instance at a show done in Roanoke Va where they had 2500 people and the man promoting it got treated so bad that he said he would never try to promote in this state again.
There are alot more things that can be said but there are a few good things to be said about Holland as well.Just know this.Nobody is ever going to be completely happy with any commission but the officials in this state need an attitude adjustment.Again you are not correct in your assumptions.
And Dave Holland your not going to get a reason too many to mention so shut up and go away!!!!!
I'm an official from out of town. Dave Holland invited my boss and I to sit cage side at an event at the Patriot Center.
My observations that night were;
Dave Holland run's a tight ship!
He has a methodical, no-nonsense managerial style that works very well.
I know his job is NOT easy and he does way more than "just signing papers". You can't understand all th BS he has to deal with unless you walk a mile in his shoes.
IMHO Dave Holland is an asset to the citizens and the State of VA.
To the previous post, with all due respect, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Dave Holland is universally disliked by every promoter that I am familiar with in the state of Virginia. The man, Holland, is beyond rude and arrogant, he is a jerk of biblical proportions (and I am being kind in that assesment). He is also incompetent and in his current position, a detriment and impediment to the growth of boxing and MMA in the Commonwealth of Virginia. He has done things that other boxing commissioners would never dream of doing if they wanted to keep their job. The problem is, nobody in Virginia has been putting him under a microscope. Nobody has really taken him on. That has changed, things are in process now, you will not know what they are until Holland is removed from office. At that point, I am sure Digital Williams will do a follow up on all the details. I will give you a little hint though. Holland sanctioned a fight without actually weighing the fighter! And that is probably one of his lesser offenses! Asta La Vista Davey!
Thank you Pat Panella and thank you joe Hensley.
Here we have one taking care of his own kind and another trying to oust Holland.
Joe you is a funny funny fella
To the writer who is an official from out of town.
Although commissioners do alot more than just sign papers I think it needs to be understood
that promoters do ten times the work that a commission does when preparing for a show and should be given more considerations than they are given.
Yeah Joe is fucking hilarious but he didn't say that shit, I did. Keep thinking its Joe and you will be blindsided big time. Its the punch you dont see that knocks you out. Right now were just jabbing at Holland and messing with him but wwhen we want to here comes the big right hand that you dont see.
Did you say he allowed a fight without a weigh in?
The momentum is building, the facts will come out,senile dave holland has made a boatload of enemies and they are uniting to oust his worthless,arogant,incompetant,senile old ass out of the commision.behind the scenes,powerfull interest have there strategy in place to insure that dave holland is HISTORY! if this wasnt true, we wouldnt be talking about it, paranoid dave has good reason to be paranoid, when it hits it will be more than just dave losing his job, it will be much, much worse. Dave, i know being senile, you are always paranoid, but this time you have good reason to be paranoid, dark clouds are on the horizon, YOU ARE DONE, ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME AND LITIGATION.
i hope the va source will kick in for daves legal fees, they will be massive. holland will end up homeless, THIS IS GONE GET REAL UGLY, REAL FAST!
he aint going anywhere until the men in the white jackets show up to haul his ass to the insane asylum. dave is clearly showing signs of alzhiemers,or senility.he is in no position to govern boxing in this or any state.
Don't think that Dave Holland is liked by all of his officials. The man is power hungry and is not a commissioner that is promoter friendly.
Seriously ....... knowing what I know about Dave Holland he just needs to resign and then move far far away. Heed my advice Dave just quit and dont show your face near a ring or a cage for the rest of your life.
Hey...... Dave Holland....... Now, It's Time To Go To School! WHOOOOO!
Signed,
The Nature Boy Ric Flair!
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