Last night's Anthony Peterson-Brandon Rios bout may rekindle a debate within boxing on when a weigh-in should be held. Should they be held the day BEFORE a card or the day OF a card?
Whether you believe it made a difference in the bout, the fact remains that after Rios weighed in at the lightweight limit of 135 pounds on the day before the bout, he came in the ring weighing 152 pounds, closer to the junior middleweight limit of 154. Peterson weighed in at 134 pounds at the weigh-in, but only put on five pounds afterwards. Some would argue that, if the weigh-in were held on the same day as the bout, there wouldn't have been that big of a weight disparity. Others believe that fighters risk a danger in being unable to properly rehydrate if a weigh-in is done on the same day as a boxing card.
Along the Beltway, only Virginia has had weigh-ins on the same day as a card, but that is not a set rule. Some promoters in the Commonwealth have also had weigh-ins on the day before a card.
Please send your thoughts on the new poll. This should provide interesting debate.
I'm a huge boxing fan and can appreciate what is required to prepare for a fight. However, fighter and promoters should be "true to the game" in every aspect. Specifically weight-classes. Why advertise a "bout" in a particular weight when the bell rings for actions the fans are looking at something different. If you understand the science behind boxing you know that in most instances additional weight has more advantages then disadvantages. Don't penalize fighters for being true to their weight-class. It was very obvious that in the Rios Peterson fight Rios had the much heavier hands. Surely the weight advantage contributed to it.
ReplyDeleteC-Mon people quit making excuses.
ReplyDeleteDamn Gary.... Are we still making excuses for Anthony Peterson losing??.... It wasn't the weight that caused him that fight (because honest to God, the only reason you knew there was, was because Max Kellerman kept repeating that there was), it was the fact he fought Rios' fight and would not listen to his corner....
ReplyDeleteBut to answer your question, the day BEFORE is just fine.... You have to remember.. Smaller weight class limits are like 3 pounds... Coming in right at 137-140 for a fight is damn near IMPOSSIBLE while you still training and putting weight back on constantly... So dehydrating yourself like Brandon Rios did is the ONLY way fighters will be able to make weights.... A fighter dehydrating themselves the day of the fight is way too risky.... Fighters will be too weak to perform...
Now, if they eliminated some of these bullshit 3 pounds weight divisions, and make all weight classes be in the range of 15 pounds, there would be no problem with holding a weigh-in the day OF the fight because making weight would be much easier
I think that would be a good idea, if the amatuers can way in the day of thier bout, and sometimes they have to do it for four day's in a row, I don't se why it would be a problem for the pro's considering they get atleast 90 day's to train before they fight.
ReplyDelete^^^ But then again, amateur weight classes are like 10-15 pounds where professional weight classes (especially at the smaller weight classes) are only like 3 pound weight ranges.... Easier to make weight when your target range is 10-15 pounds than from 3-5 pounds
ReplyDeleteThe day of the Fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI'm tired of yall crying about the weight.Tell Ant to move down a weight class if he's that small.Thats what we do,cut weight so u can weigh in small and fight big.This is nothing new.After the weigh in i'm always 10 pounds heavier just when i wake up,let alone the time of the fight probably 4 more pounds.It was a tough fight and he loss.Keep ur head up Ant.Yall funny tryna change the rules of boxing.None of yall fight or ever fought so pls shut up.
ReplyDeleteAnt only gained 4 pounds after the weigh in?Did he eat or just drink a glass of water?
ReplyDeleteIf you really want to eliminate weight advantages/disadvantages, the weign-in needs to be not only the day of the fight, but right before the fight!
ReplyDeleteThat being said, the sport of boxing is all about strategizing and implementation of the strategy. If you know you're fighting an opponent that blows up after the weigh-in, then you strategize for it appropriately.
We all heard Mr. Hunter clearly communicate the game plan and I beleive the game plan showed that they strategized for the extra weight. So, the issue is with the implementation. Peterson by nature is a scrapper. On Saturday he learned you can't fight a Mexican the way most Mexicans fight, if you're not Mexican. And you really can't do it if that Mexican is 17lbs heavier than you! All in all, he's still a good young fighter who now has the grand opportunity to show his true moxy as a D.C. native by coming back from his first defeat. Ya'll should be proud of him and encourage him to do so when you see him.
You only gain 4 pounds after the weigh in in the amateurs.Cause you have to weigh in and fight again the next day.
ReplyDeleteI would like to see a system where boxers are weighed twice--Once the day before the fight to make the weight class, and once three hours before the fight (perhaps as part of the physical,) to meet a pre-agreed-upon maximum weight gain.
ReplyDeleteThis would help even the playing field, especially in cases where you have fighters with significantly different "natural weights."
The added weight would indeed help the heavier fighter, especially if the added pounds bring him to his natural, prime fight weight.
What do you do if one of the fighters doesn't make the weight
ReplyDeleteon the second weighin?
What you are suggesting would cause alot of fights not to happen
at the last minute.I can assure you promoters have enough problems to worry about come fight time and don't need this to add to their worrys.
i think we should stall all weigh-ins in the state of virginia until we have a competant boxing commissioiner! dave holland has got to go!
ReplyDeleteI think it should always be the day of the fight BUT there are at least a couple of reasons why it should be the day before. 1) possible health implications 2) In a HUGE fight out in Vegas or on Pay Per View or wherever, you don't want weight issues cancelling the fight. What other major sport has this detail involved in it? NONE! Can you imagine the huge headache Showtime, the Promoters, the Venue, the Fighters had to deal with when Jose Luis Castillo couldn't make weight against Diego Corrales? And that was a day before weigh in.
ReplyDeleteNoon The day befor
ReplyDeleteNo second weigh ins, just let them eat and relax and not have to worry about a second weigh in.
Brandon Rios. I loved everything about the performance of this lightweight in his disqualification win over Anthony Peterson, from the eagerness to fight through the low blows to the all-out aggression. I think his boxing skill and physical ability is being underestimated a bit, though. No, he's not actively fast, and the amount he got hit in the 1st round before Peterson began to fall apart leads me to believe he's not as good defensively as I thought. But he's not in the class of brawling, pressure-fighting, iron-chinned Mexicans like Alfredo Angulo or Antonio Margarito in those regards. He's faster than both, especially in his feet, and he's better defensively than both of them. I'd pick a fast, slick boxer over Angulo and Margarito almost every time. I think Rios will struggle with that archetype, too, but I'd give him a far, far better chance.
ReplyDeleteFirst thing first, I like to congratulate Anthony for making as far as he made it without a lose. Far as the weight, some train & sacrifice to their advantage. What I mean by that is, they would fight low & to be stronger. That’s a plus and a minus; it can make you strong and or weak. Too much wt. lose will effect you through dehydration. Fighting close to your wt. class can cause you to be lazy in training to. (This is not a catch all for everyone, just through my experience.) Like again I say, this is through my Experience. We need to teach our kids about nutrition, vital important. That’s what make your tick goes tock. It’s not just about training the body physically, but nutritionally as well. Food is our fuel, wrong petro got to take the metro. High octane of (food) fuel, physical & psychological studies will equal “CHAMP” in the making. We as a people in the metropolitan area need to help out each other. In order for you to Live, you must Give. In order for you Give, you must live. Stay Positive.
ReplyDeleteIts not fair and its as simple as that.Boxers used to weigh in ALL the time for years THE DAY OF THE FIGHT.Never had problems with any Super Bouts-Leonard/Hearns,Hearns/Hagler with weight becoming an issue.
ReplyDeleteAnd its really not fair to boxers who can't afford the nutrionist/supplements required to put on/take off that weight.
Rios was a jr.Middle fighting a jr.welter-and thats not making excuses its fact.
Remember when Chop Chop fought Cotto? Heres Cotto pretty much a middleweight and Chop Chop a JR.WELTERWEIGHT.
I'mtired of seeing this.You want weigh ins the day before the fight?Fine then let the boxers do that but only allow them to gain a max of 5/6 pounds AFTER the weigh-in.
And for those who say maybe Peterson should move down-maybe Rios should MOVE UP.
I realize that all boxers trainers/managers look for an advantage but thats just too much-boxing should be decided on skill and heart not who has the better supplements/nutrtionist.
You can sure tell alot of you guys no nothing about making weight or fighting."It's not fair"Are you serious,Rios should move up,Why?He's not having any problems.Where do you guys come from?Good thing yall have no say on anything in the boxing world.
ReplyDeleteWeigh Ins !
ReplyDeleteWho the fuck needs them.
Just throw two people together and let the blood fly.
Signed
Little Elmo
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