Lawrence Jones is a good fighter. I guess this fight shows the difference between a good fighter and a thoroughbred with real world class ability. Not all fighters can be world champs. Impressive performance by Estrada.
I agree this shows anything over 154Lbs is way to big for him. Estrada came in over the agreed weight in the contract. Jones didn't quit or get ko'd he was out boxing him and estrada put him against the ropes and threw wildly jones put the ear muffs on instead of taking a knee ( no standing eight in Cali) and he ended up getting knocked down, and was right back up but the ref waived it off.
SOMEONE TELL ME WHO TOOK JONES UP THERE,I TOLD YOU I TOLD YOU ESTRADA WAS TO BIG TO STONG FOR JONES.WHO EVER TOOK JONES UP HAD TO DO IT FOR THE MONEY.SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHO IT WAS,
Is Money Mike Sawyer responsible for Jones and Luther Smith? Luther should not be allowed to fight again anywhere and if Mike is involved with him he should have the brains and the heart to not let him fight. And in the case of Jones, if he put him in that fight with Estrada, I hope that he made sure that Jones got at least 2500. which is the going rate for someone like Estrada. If not he is really stupid and dangerous to any of his fighters.
every body please tell me you have to know that mike is full of shit,how did he get in this game.can we get him out so no one gets hurt.because he can put a dent in boxing.we dont need to take a backward step in this game.
The bout was an opportunity for Jones to make some money and a possible name for himself. I don't think you can blame Jones for taking a shot at an opportunity. It just didn't come out the way Jones wanted to. Estrada is a solid prospect.
Jones was compensated more than fairly for this fight. He knew exactly what he was in against, he fought hard, was up at the count of 3 (clear headed), and is just fine after the loss. It was a healthy paycheck (more than the quotes on the blog), & he was consensated for Estrada not being on weight as well. Ultimately, Estrada is a super-middle & Jones is a junior-middle. Lawrence Jones will be back at his proper weight class.
He knew exactly what he was in against...- Hey Jones, Did you know that you were going to get knocked out in 60 seconds? No! I didnt think so. Choose your opponents carefully, dont jump over the money they offer you. Because you can seriously get hurt in this game. You are not ready for this type of opponent yet. This guy was way over your head.
estrada is going to be world class, jones you box guys like george rivera who is a good local fighter,but would never be in that rank,your can not cry and say he did not make wt.because you did not have to take the fight.take your lupes because you will get more with mike sawyer.
all of you who keep talking trash on Lawrence and Mike amuse me. Lawrence took a fight with a good fighter was paid good for it, so those of you who say he will never be on that level pleases explain to me what level you're on! the fat piece of trash who won't step foot in the gym because you are to busy talking tough on the internet!?! Lawrence is a great guy and a very good fighter. what type of fighter only takes fights against people they know they can beat? hatton lost to mayweather not because he isn't a great fighter, but because mayweather is just a bigger, faster, and stronger fighter. What is Oscar going to do to pac-man? why because he is to big, so please keep your anonymous trash talking up, because you don't have the balls to say it to either of their faces!!!!
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mike will never nerver never,make a boxer of his own,he will take guys that no one want any more,or fighters that have been way over the hill,when i say over the hill i mean over the hill.you come back and say what you want mike,but facts is facts.money must mean a lot to you mike,when you willing to take a boxer who should not box any more or fights over there heads and get them hurt.you should get out of the game if this is the best you can do.get out before you get someone hurt.
Hoz come you haven't shown your face in all this? Maybe you are off enjoying your earnins and don't have time to be accountable to your boxing community. Man, you used to be all over this blog. What happened?
$$ Mike will fit any boxer foolish enough to let him anywhere there's a payday for $ Mike.
Come on $$ Mike find those balls and tell us how wrong we are and how right you are. Post a pic of Jones after that last fight too for us that didn't see his perspective of that deal you sold him.
If your a fighter looking to make some money and get a chance to do that and possibly have a huge upset that would make a career for you why wouldn't you take it? Whatbit boils down to is Lawrence lost oh well. He wasn't hurt he wasn't scammed into it. He knew exactly who he was fighting. Jones was up before the ref said three. Estrada will get ate up as his career goes along. Mike did nothing wrong. He is not managing Lawrence, he got a call about them looking for a fighter. Lawrence took the fight on his own free will. How many of you have ever stepped foot in a ring? Actually how many of you have even been laid?!? Keep typing you cupcake eating shit talking queers! Get a life and stop talking bad about local guys who are trying to get some where in this game!
How is 2-1-1 guy beating a 0-0 guy an upset? You are so stupid that make no sense. People dont like you here too much Mike. I haven't met anyone who likes you. You think about that why...
Who was the favorite in this fight? That is how it would have been an upset! This is not mike, but explain how he is so dumb! He makes his money and pays his dues.
It's not hate Boxbible don't lower yourself to Mike or whoever led Jones or made money off of Jones' level, it is our concern for Jones. So get off YOUR self righteous box. Hating just to hate is bad, Being angry because of an injustice is not.
For the poster who thinks that most of these comments were from ring virgins or queers, unfortunately for you they were not. Just because someone calls you on a wrong doesn't mean they are not ring savvy or know how to use their junk.
boxbible,i am also not hating i dont have time to talk about it , it is want it is,it not just a few of us there is a lot of us that know mike is bad for boxing. with the name you have you should understand.
boxbible,i am also not hating i dont have time to talk about it , it is want it is,it not just a few of us there is a lot of us that know mike is bad for boxing. with the name you have you should understand.
now that we gave mike his 15 min of fame,lets talk about something else. lets talk about real coachs,or real people in the fight game.please please please no more mike!!! just the name make me sick.
Come on man. I can't believe anyone that really knows me would say this shit about me on this blog. I have never done anyone wrong, anyone. Ask the people I've actually dealt with on a personal or business level & they will tell you how real I am. I have never skirted or fucked ANYONE on any level. Believe that. If you listen to shit that people say on this blog anonymously, then you are in error. The people that truly know will never say a bad word about me and that's a fact.
It's a hurt business... you gotta take some chances and you gotta earn some bucks...
Jones is a defensively sound and capable fighter. Mike's just trying to make things happen. Plus Jones ain't no spring chicken.
If it was some young prospect, then I could understand them words of condemnation towards Money Mike. But, it's not the case. Jones been around a long time and has sparred with everybody.
The criticism towards Money Mike seems a bit harsh. OK... we'll settle for two unlucky strikes against Mike.
Wow! Estrada's an animal...
ReplyDeletestupid fight. why destroy a good kid who tries hard and has some skills in a fight with a thoroughbred.
ReplyDeleteI hope Larwence got paid for this one because he sure didn't have a chance from the very begining.Hate to see it happen to a likeable man like Jones.
ReplyDeleteLawrence is very likeable person but this isn't his thing. I hope he can find something else to do other than boxing.
ReplyDeleteLawrence Jones is a good fighter. I guess this fight shows the difference between a good fighter and a thoroughbred with real world class ability. Not all fighters can be world champs. Impressive performance by Estrada.
ReplyDeleteNo, this fight shows that Lawrence Jones is not a middleweight... AND Shwan Estrada is a SUPER-middleweight. The size discrepency was incredible.
ReplyDeleteI agree this shows anything over 154Lbs is way to big for him. Estrada came in over the agreed weight in the contract. Jones didn't quit or get ko'd he was out boxing him and estrada put him against the ropes and threw wildly jones put the ear muffs on instead of taking a knee ( no standing eight in Cali) and he ended up getting knocked down, and was right back up but the ref waived it off.
ReplyDeleteSOMEONE TELL ME WHO TOOK JONES UP THERE,I TOLD YOU I TOLD YOU ESTRADA WAS TO BIG TO STONG FOR JONES.WHO EVER TOOK JONES UP HAD TO DO IT FOR THE MONEY.SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHO IT WAS,
ReplyDeleteMaybe it was 'money' Mike Sawyer! Juat like the things he had been doing with Luther Smith. He is all about money, little chump changes.
ReplyDeleteIs Money Mike Sawyer responsible for Jones and Luther Smith?
ReplyDeleteLuther should not be allowed to fight again anywhere and if Mike is involved with him he should have the brains and the heart to not let him fight. And in the case of Jones, if he put him in that fight with Estrada, I hope that he made sure that Jones got at least 2500. which is the going rate for someone like Estrada. If not he is really stupid and dangerous to any of his fighters.
every body please tell me you have to know that mike is full of shit,how did he get in this game.can we get him out so no one gets hurt.because he can put a dent in boxing.we dont need to take a backward step in this game.
ReplyDeleteOk, mr Williams what is your take on this situation with Jones?
ReplyDeleteThe bout was an opportunity for Jones to make some money and a possible name for himself. I don't think you can blame Jones for taking a shot at an opportunity. It just didn't come out the way Jones wanted to. Estrada is a solid prospect.
ReplyDeleteJones was compensated more than fairly for this fight. He knew exactly what he was in against, he fought hard, was up at the count of 3 (clear headed), and is just fine after the loss. It was a healthy paycheck (more than the quotes on the blog), & he was consensated for Estrada not being on weight as well. Ultimately, Estrada is a super-middle & Jones is a junior-middle. Lawrence Jones will be back at his proper weight class.
ReplyDeleteHow come the promoter won't weigh in here? Must be the Invisible Man.
ReplyDeleteHealthy paycheck? It was scheduled 4 rounds,$1500???? I guess Jones really needed the money. Poor guy!
ReplyDeleteRetard, triple it.
ReplyDeleteI doubt Dan Goosen gives a shit about anonymous bloggers, including myself.
Yeah you don't sound like you care about anyone, esp. Jones. If you cared you wouldn't remain anon yourself.
ReplyDeleteHe knew exactly what he was in against...-
ReplyDeleteHey Jones,
Did you know that you were going to get knocked out in 60 seconds?
No! I didnt think so. Choose your opponents carefully, dont jump over the money they offer you. Because you can seriously get hurt in this game. You are not ready for this type of opponent yet. This guy was way over your head.
estrada is going to be world class, jones you box guys like george rivera who is a good local fighter,but would never be in that rank,your can not cry and say he did not make wt.because you did not have to take the fight.take your lupes because you will get more with mike sawyer.
ReplyDeleteall of you who keep talking trash on Lawrence and Mike amuse me. Lawrence took a fight with a good fighter was paid good for it, so those of you who say he will never be on that level pleases explain to me what level you're on! the fat piece of trash who won't step foot in the gym because you are to busy talking tough on the internet!?! Lawrence is a great guy and a very good fighter. what type of fighter only takes fights against people they know they can beat? hatton lost to mayweather not because he isn't a great fighter, but because mayweather is just a bigger, faster, and stronger fighter. What is Oscar going to do to pac-man? why because he is to big, so please keep your anonymous trash talking up, because you don't have the balls to say it to either of their faces!!!!
ReplyDeletewho made that last comment,how dear you put jones name with hatton mayweather,please no more comments from you.
ReplyDeleteI,ll amen that
ReplyDeletei second that!!
ReplyDeleteI third that!!
ReplyDeleteIf he was a good fighter, then he would have lasted more than 1 minute!
Super Elite Boxers-Floyd, Hopkins, Margarito, Cotto...
ReplyDeleteWorld Class Boxers-Pavlick,Hatton..
Club show'a'Class-Jimmy Lange...
Club Show'b'Class-Goerge Rivera...
Club Show'c'Class-1 minutes Boxers
Lawrence Jones!
Super Elite Boxers-Floyd, Hopkins, Margarito, Cotto...
ReplyDeleteWorld Class Boxers-Pavlick,Hatton..
Club show'a'Class-Jimmy Lange...
Club Show'b'Class-Goerge Rivera...
Club Show'c'Class-1 minutes Boxers
Lawrence Jones! And them North Carolina guys!
Where does Mike Sawyer fit in?
ReplyDeleteHe certainly can't fit into his pants anymore... :}
ReplyDeletemike will never nerver never,make a boxer of his own,he will take guys that no one want any more,or fighters that have been way over the hill,when i say over the hill i mean over the hill.you come back and say what you want mike,but facts is facts.money must mean a lot to you mike,when you willing to take a boxer who should not box any more or fights over there heads and get them hurt.you should get out of the game if this is the best you can do.get out before you get someone hurt.
ReplyDelete$$ Money Mike.
ReplyDeleteHoz come you haven't shown your face in all this? Maybe you are off enjoying your earnins and don't have time to be accountable to your boxing community. Man, you used to be all over this blog. What happened?
mike please!!!!
ReplyDelete$$ Mike will fit any boxer foolish enough to let him anywhere there's a payday for $ Mike.
ReplyDeleteCome on $$ Mike find those balls and tell us how wrong we are and how right you are. Post a pic of Jones after that last fight too for us that didn't see his perspective of that deal you sold him.
That's 2 strikes. After this there will be no tears for the next sap boxer to get snared in $$ Mike's money self absorbed scheme.
ReplyDeleteBOXER BEWARE!!!
Who managed Jones before Mike?
ReplyDeleteIf your a fighter looking to make some money and get a chance to do that and possibly have a huge upset that would make a career for you why wouldn't you take it? Whatbit boils down to is Lawrence lost oh well. He wasn't hurt he wasn't scammed into it. He knew exactly who he was fighting. Jones was up before the ref said three. Estrada will get ate up as his career goes along. Mike did nothing wrong. He is not managing Lawrence, he got a call about them looking for a fighter. Lawrence took the fight on his own free will. How many of you have ever stepped foot in a ring? Actually how many of you have even been laid?!? Keep typing you cupcake eating shit talking queers! Get a life and stop talking bad about local guys who are trying to get some where in this game!
ReplyDeleteI guarantee that dumb comment was made by Mike Sawyer. That Mike...
ReplyDeleteHey Mike,
ReplyDeleteHow is 2-1-1 guy beating a 0-0 guy an upset? You are so stupid that make no sense. People dont like you here too much Mike. I haven't met anyone who likes you. You think about that why...
Who was the favorite in this fight? That is how it would have been an upset! This is not mike, but explain how he is so dumb! He makes his money and pays his dues.
ReplyDeleteHaters galore!!!
ReplyDeleteAnd self-righteous pigs at that...
Sad...
It's not hate Boxbible don't lower yourself to Mike or whoever led Jones or made money off of Jones' level, it is our concern for Jones. So get off YOUR self righteous box. Hating just to hate is bad, Being angry because of an injustice is not.
ReplyDeleteFor the poster who thinks that most of these comments were from ring virgins or queers, unfortunately for you they were not. Just because someone calls you on a wrong doesn't mean they are not ring savvy or know how to use their junk.
boxbible,i am also not hating i dont have time to talk about it , it is want it is,it not just a few of us there is a lot of us that know mike is bad for boxing. with the name you have you should understand.
ReplyDeleteboxbible,i am also not hating i dont have time to talk about it , it is want it is,it not just a few of us there is a lot of us that know mike is bad for boxing. with the name you have you should understand.
ReplyDeletenow that we gave mike his 15 min of fame,lets talk about something else. lets talk about real coachs,or real people in the fight game.please please please no more mike!!! just the name make me sick.
ReplyDeletePoor Mike !! Nobody likes him! I feel sorry for him. But not, after what he did with Luther and Jones.
ReplyDeleteCome on man. I can't believe anyone that really knows me would say this shit about me on this blog. I have never done anyone wrong, anyone. Ask the people I've actually dealt with on a personal or business level & they will tell you how real I am. I have never skirted or fucked ANYONE on any level. Believe that. If you listen to shit that people say on this blog anonymously, then you are in error. The people that truly know will never say a bad word about me and that's a fact.
ReplyDeleteMike Sawyer
Mike I want to say thank you for not letting me mess up my pro debut, and taking to tough of a fight. Thanks a lot for watching out for me bro!
ReplyDeleteyea yea yea mike.
ReplyDeleteIt's a hurt business... you gotta take some chances and you gotta earn some bucks...
ReplyDeleteJones is a defensively sound and capable fighter. Mike's just trying to make things happen. Plus Jones ain't no spring chicken.
If it was some young prospect, then I could understand them words of condemnation towards Money Mike. But, it's not the case. Jones been around a long time and has sparred with everybody.
The criticism towards Money Mike seems a bit harsh. OK... we'll settle for two unlucky strikes against Mike.