Congratulations to Beltway Boxers Dusty Harrison and Brady "The Bulldog" Sensibaugh. Both young men captured National Junior Golden Gloves championships in Mesquite, NV.
Harrison won the 13-14 age group in the 110-pound division by defeating Edgar Gutierrez of California by decision. Gutierrez won both his previous bouts by stoppage, but according to reports, Harrison won the title bout in very impressive fashion.
In fact, so impressive was Harrison's performance during the three-day tourney, he was named the Outstanding Boxer of the Tournament.
Sensibaugh only had to fight once during the tournament, but he defeated his opponent, Johnnie West of Louisiana, by decision to win the 13-14 age group in the 80-pound division.
NICE!
ReplyDeleteDigital, pardon my ignorance, but I know the difference between Silver and Golden Gloves is age (thank you wikipedia), but where does Jr. Golden Gloves fit in?
Jr. National Golden Gloves are from the age 9 thru 16 and the winners are labeled as best in the USA. In fact, the same youngsters you see in the Silver Gloves are most likely the same ones you will see in jr. Golden Gloves.
ReplyDeleteThe Silver Gloves is an advancing tournament, meaning you have to win your local tournament, then the regional tournament just to make it to the national tournament.In our area, the tournament starts in December and ends in February. The Jr. Golden Gloves is an invitational, meaning all boxers need to register to participate and is held over a few days from start to finish. The Golden Gloves is an advancing tournament (local, regional, national), but not for Junior boxers.
ReplyDeleteWow! some people swear they know everything. According to Gregory Wheeler, this year the winners of the Junior National Golden Gloves are headed for Australlia on the first week of October 2008. Everything is paid for;however,he stated that all boxers going must remain at the same weight they competed in and only 1 coach per state will be able to go. Furthermore, all boxers mu be 10 and over.
ReplyDeletechris are you saying that you don't know if the australia trip is true?
ReplyDeleteonly 15 16 year olds can go
ReplyDeleteI can't even find any results. Does anyone know where the full results are? I wanted to look at some of the other divisions.
ReplyDeleteWhere does Ringside and the Junior Olympics fits or rank amongst these tournaments for junior boxers? I was told the Junior Olympics rankings tells the true story of who is best of the junior boxers. Pardon my ignorance on the subject but my son just started boxing and I wanted to get as much information as possible. Don't want to be a pesky parent but it would assist me with conversations about boxing over dinner with my son. Also is there a ranking of best boxing gyms for amateurs in the DMV? Prices would help also.
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Corey - for junior boxers the only advancing tournaments are the Silver Gloves and Junior Olympics. The local Silver Gloves tournament is in December and it is held for all boxers in DC/Baltimore/Virginia (northern)/Delaware. It is usually a two or three day tournament. Winners advance to the East Coast Regionals which were held in Augusta, Georgia. All the local winners from Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgian, West Viriginia, Virginia, Alabama and D/M/V compete to represent our region, which is Region 3. The US is broken up into 8 regions and all regional winners meet in February to determine the national champion. The Silver Gloves IS THE ONLY RANKING TOURNAMENT for boxers 10-14 years old. Although the National Silver Gloves is for 10-15 year olds, the Junior Olympics also allows 15 & 16 year olds to travel to the National Championships in Marquette Michigan.
ReplyDeleteThe Junior Olympics is the 2nd advancing tournament for junior boxers. It includes a local (DC area) and Regional tournament, but only the 15 & 16 years olds can go to the national tournament. This year, the Regionals were held in Delaware and for the first time, they allowed boxers as young as 11 & 12 years old to also compete. Again, only the 15 & 16 year olds go to nationals.
As a 15 or 16 year old boxer, if you win the Junior Olympics or the Silver Gloves - you can make the case for #1 ranking. As a matter of fact all Silver Gloves winners get an automatic berth to the National Junior OLympics. They can elect not to box in the local or regional tournament. Everyone has their own opinion on which has more prestige, but both result in #1 ranking and both also have led to winners competing outside of the country. When you win both, like Tony Magruder did this year - there's no doubt that you are #1 in the US.
ALL OTHER TOURNAMENTS ARE NON-ADVANCING, meaning you pay a fee and register to participate. The entire tournament is held on consequetive days and isn't separated by weeks/months or location. This includes the Ringside Tournament, Comcast Summer Classic, Platinum Gloves, Junior National Golden Gloves, Black Gloves, Title National Tournament, etc. No matter what the name is, they are "Invitationals" , which contrary to popular belief means EVERYONE IS invited. They are not selected or anything like that. To find out more about the national scene, check out boxrec.com's Amateur Boxing forums. There are a ton of elite amateur coaches, boxers and officials in the forum.
As far as which gyms are ranked the best in the area, that's subjective. What I would do is to visit some of the local gyms and speak with the coaches, boxers and parents to see if you feel comfortable bringing your son to their gym. Selecting a gym also depends on what you want your son to get out of the sport. You should bring your son to a gym that has demonstrated what you are looking for with their current or past boxers. DC has some of the best boxers in the country, but if you want to see a list of some of the gyms go here: http://www.boxinggyms.com/addresses/maryland.htm
or contact Potomac Valley Association for a list of all registered gyms. If you want to talk offline, I will send Digital an email with my contact information. I just don't want to post here because of spammers.
Wow! Thanks so much. This helps a great deal.
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The Ringside World Tournament is the most important of them all.
ReplyDeleteYou do get ranked and you can actually see the rankings on line.
Silver Gloves is second most important but still miles away from Ringside Worlds.
Ringside has well over 1,500 boxers from several different countries. Silver Gloves, golden Gloves, JO's are boxers from the USA only. Ringside is the true and only real ranking. When a boxer wins Ringside, he can then claim to be number 1. Untill then he is just a decent boxer who won in the USA only. Silver gloves only have boxers from 10-16 JO's only have boxers that are 15 and 16.Jr. Golden Gloves are from 8 to 16.
Ringside has it all!!! Dont kid yourself-Ringside is the cream of the crop.
Use your brains boys.
ReplyDeleteIt's simple: It goes like this:
I will place then in order leading up to the top and most important event.
JO's
Silver gloves
Golden Gloves
Platinum Gloves
Ringside World Gloves
It is a no brainer! Ringside Worlds is the TOPS!!!!
DMT you have not a clue what you are talking about. Personally I think all the tournaments are meaningful. We have no way of telling what boxer may show up at an event; therefore, we have no exact way of telling who is the best by boxing in one event. Every boxer does not go to all tournaments. Sometimes the best boxer cannot afford to go. You have boxers from DC, Baltimore, Philly, LA, Ohio, NY who just do not have the funds to attend such big tournaments that are held out of town. But they can whip up on the number 1 any day of the week. I have seen several times a boxer gets back in town after winning a big tournament and lose to a local guy at a club show the first week he is home. I AM NOT TAKING ANYTHING FROM THE YOUNGSTRERS WHO JUST WON THE GOLDEN GLOVES OR ANY OTHER TOURNAMENT-IM JUST SAYING THAT WE HAVE NO WAY OF TELLING WHO IS THE TOP DOG. I think they are all good and should get credit for everything thet do-win or lose...
ReplyDeletenow that last comment makes the most sense of them all.
ReplyDeletewhatever: Rindside Worlds is the only true ranking
ReplyDeleteDo you work for John Brown?
ReplyDeleteeveryone will claim that their tournament means the most.
ReplyDeletehell. i think the mayors cup is the only one that counts
Ringside is an invitational. It does have a lot of action, but it's usally the only tourney that boxers who have difficulties getting fights can look forward to. When you have a 10 year old that weighs 200lbs. (I've seen it), he doesn't get a lot of fights, but may at the Ringside. I've seen 8 year old girls and 70 year old men box at this event. I've also seen 300lbs women. That's why there are 1,100 boxers there. As far as the top tourney goes, it is definitely the LARGEST. But it DOES NOT HAVE ANY BEARING ON RANKINGS. It's not even a USA Boxing Event like the JO's. Again, for boxers 10-14, the Silver Gloves is the only tourney that you have to earn your way to. For 15 and 16 year olds, it's the JO's and Silvers.
ReplyDeleteAll you have to do is look at the boxers that have won these tournaments and see where they are now. (Here's a hint: they are Olympians and elite Open Class Fighter that are ranked). Check for youself by going to usaboxing.org and look at the rankings and results of the tournaments. See what the champions of the Silver and JO's have done. They've even competed internationally because they are ELITE BOXERS.
Anyone who says different doesn't know what they are talking about. Ringside has the best awards (spinner belt that weights 15lbs., uniform, bage), but it's not the best competition. Again, I'm not knocking the tournament, but I am just addressing the claims that it's a ranking tournament and is the top tournament. Don't get fooled by the "World" designation.
AS FAR AS RINGSIDE RANKINGS ONLINE, THOSE ARE JUST FOR THE TOURNAMENT GENIUS. THEY HAVE NO BEARING ON USA BOXING'S RANKINGS. CALL AND ASK THEM YOURSELF IF YOU REALLY WANT TO FIND OUT.
People, if you ever want to learn the answers, please don't rely on blogs solely. Go to the source. USA Boxing's number is on their site. It's (719) 866-2300.
I'm sure that Harly = DMT = Paper bags. Give me a break.
AND AS FAR AS ALL THE OTHER COUNTRIES, IF YOU READ THE LINK (IT'S DOWN NOW), YOU'LL SEE THAT OUT OF THE 1,100 BOXERS ONLY 20 OR SO WERE FROM OUTSIDE THE US. ONE OR TWO FROM MEXICO, A LOT FROM CANADA, ONE FROM JAPAN I THINK AND ONE FROM IRELAND. I'M GOING OFF MEMORY, BUT IT WAS ON THEIR SITE. SO LET'S NOT GO OVERBOARD LIKE HALF THE BOXERS WERE INTERNATIONAL.
Ringside has over 1,500 boxers.
ReplyDeletenow that's over 1,000 more than any other tournament. How can another tournament be better?
#1 Ringside
#2 Pal
#3 Silver Gloves
#4 Golden Gloves Jo & Open
#5 Junior Olympics
#6 Platnium gloves tie with USA
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dis could go on 4 eva. who really cares. they r all good 4 real. the guy who wins Ringside says its da best.
ReplyDeletethe guy who wins Silver gloves says its the best.
the guy who wins the put up or shut up tournament says its the best.
why do we waste our time arguing with the fans who have not a clue what is really going on. but since we r on the subject my pick for the best is the Mayor's Cup.
ask any boxer who won it last year.
Congratulations bulldog,keep up the good work.
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1,500 boxers include masters over 40 years old as well as women. Have you ever been to the Ringside? Come on, man. It's the largest but it's not the best competition. Silvers and Jr. Olympics, you have to earn your way there. Some boxers may have to win 6 times just to get to the JOs. In California, some boxers have to win 8 times just to get to the Silver Nationals. Then they have to win 3 or 4 more times!!!
ReplyDeleteRingside doesn't add to any rankings for USA Boxing. You get a great belt and gear and title of winning Ringside.
I don't really care who thinks what is better, I just want those who don't know to have the facts. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I just looked at the Silver gloves results and I see some kids had to win just 1 fight to become champion.
ReplyDeleteI looked at JO results and I see a local kid that was crowned champion without even boxing.
I looked at Jr Golden Gloves and I see 3 kids were crowned champion without boxing.
I looked Ringside World Tournament and looks to me that everyone had to box.
Now if Ringside means zilch;why are so many boxers going? Why are younging bragging on My Space that they won the Worlds? Why when they win do they claim to be the number 1 in the world? Why does Ring magazine claim to list the real champions? You will have extremely hard time convincing anyone that Ringside is not the best. Why are the belts the best? I know of 7 olympions that boxed at Ringside.
Hell! I know of three that lost there. Ringside has to be the deciding factor who is the champ.
You do not have a leg to stand on.
Nothing compares to Ringside. Boxers wait all year for this event. You need to go there one time before you pass judgement.
OHIO STATE FAIR IS THE BIGGEST AND BEST. IT HAS BEEN SINCE THE EARLY 70's.
ReplyDeleteI've been to Ringside the last five years, so I know a little about it.
ReplyDeleteYou forgot to say the kid that didn't have to fight in the JOs was 15 years old and 80lbs!! And they made him move up for that. He won the Silvers at 75lbs. and received an automatic berth to the JOs. Of course, there aren't going to be many boxers at that size!!! He doesn't get many fights locally either.
As far as the Silver Gloves, kids who are very small or very big for there age may not be able to get a fight. Ok, so one champ out of 45 didn't have to fight. Your point is what?
At the 2007 Ringside there were 27 uncontested champions!!! 27!! So obviously, you didn't look hard enough. See for yourself:
http://www.amateurboxingnetwork.com/index.php?mode=article&id=65
At the JOs, there were championship bouts at 90lbs, 95lbs, 101lbs, 106lbs, 110lbs.,114lbs., 119lbs., 125lbs, 132lbs, 145lbs, 154lbs, 165lbs, 176lbs, 201lbs, 201+. So every class was covered and all champions had to fight except a 15 or 16 year old under 90lbs.
As far as Ring Magazine - that's a pro publication. I don't know of any amateur rankings they do. But I do know that the governing body of amateur boxing in the US is USABoxing. Internationally, it's AIBA, so those are the ones that matter in my opinion. I could find ten other rankings online, but they are just words on a screen and don't mean anything to me.
I DIDN'T SAY Ringside didn't mean anything, I just said when compared to the two tournaments where you have to win locally and regionally to get there, Ringside doesn't measure up. At most a winner will have to win 4 times. In the advancing tournaments a boxer may have to win upwards of 9 times. Which is more impressive??
2008 Olympians: Yanez won the Silvers, Warren won the Silvers, Williams won the Silvers, Ail won the Silvers, Molina won the Silvers, Andrade won the Silvers. Deontay Wilder didn't start boxing until 2007 and I don't think Gary Russell Jr. has competed in the Silver Gloves.
As far as Olympians losing at the Ringside, so what? Everyone has losses, but what's the point. I'm sure they didn't lose to just anyone. I saw Dominic Wade lose at the Ringside too. Guess what? He lost to Shawn Estrada!! What 3 were you talking about and who did they lose to? Nevermind, it doesn't matter.
I don't have to convince anyone that the JOs and Silver Gloves are more prestigious than the Ringside. Everyone who is in the sport already knows that. Go to boxrec.com forums and pose the question, to all the former Olympian, Level IV coaches and officials who are forum members and SEE WHAT RESPONSE YOU GET.
I already explained that most boxers like the Ringside because the belts are better? What does that mean, it means they give away a $300 belt that weights 15lbs. and the whole front plate spins!! They sell them now in the Ringside Catalogs. When you call it a "World" Tournament, boxers say they won the "Worlds". Who doesn't want to say that they are a world champ. That's great marketing on John Brown's part. However, I don't just like to state my opinion, I like to back it up with facts. Last year, the Ringside "World" Championship's International contingent was as follows:
Out of 2,248 boxers foreign countries were represented with: Canada 87 boxers, Mexico 3 boxers, Ireland 4 boxers, Puerto Rico 4 boxers, Japan 1 boxer, France 1 boxers. That is 4% of all boxers were from the other parts of the "World". Give me a break.
AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT A GOOD TOURNEY BECAUSE ITS WHERE ANYONE CAN GO AND PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEE THEY WILL BOX, BUT STOP COMPARING IT TO THE ADVANCING TOURNAMENTS!!
DO WE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS? IF YOU WOULD LIKE I CAN LOOK UP THE JO'S WHO'S WHO AND RINGSIDE TOO. HERE'S A HINT. IN 2007 RINGSIDE, THERE WERE ZERO OLYMPIANS IN THE OPEN CLASS.
I close by saying that you obviously don't know as much as you think about amateur boxing. Since you've obviously convinced yourself that the Ringside is THE tournament - good luck out there next week. I'll be there again, but hopefully I'll be going to the Silver Gloves Nationals too.
u can ask 10 coaches which is the best. 9 will say ringside, 1 will say something else and its u
ReplyDeleteringside #1
ReplyDeletejo's #2
silvers #3
jr.gold gloves #4
the rest dont even count
i looked at boxers who participated in all of the mentioned tournaments. i cannot see how anyone can claim to have the top tournament when i see the same boxers in each tournament.
ReplyDeleteringside, jo's, silvers, jr golden gloves. However, i do think when a boxer is 15 16, the JO's is the meaningful one without question.
Desert Showdown is the toughest competetion out there.
ReplyDeleteDesret Showdown aint shit! Its actually a local event. 90% of the boxers are living within 50 miles from there/
ReplyDeleteIt's like comparing getting to the NCAA Tournament that you have to win 5 games in row to winning a tournament invitational that you were invited to with 3 other teams. Sure, some of those 4 teams may have been NCAA Champions in past years, but the didn't have to earn getting there. If it is true the same boxers go to a lot of tournaments, then I would look at how they got there as the deciding factor of which is "better" not who was there. "Better" in this case means harder to win. Maybe that is what the issue is here. Better is subjective and "harder to win" is not so much.
ReplyDeleteTo me, I think having to win to stay in or win the get there is a bigger accomplishment. Everyone has there opinion, but all the coaches that I know who coach on the national level (meaning they have boxers that have one these tournaments that we are talking about), look for the JO's and the Silvers more than the Ringside.
acw-look at what you have started here...
ReplyDeletegotta love BATB. It's funny how we seem to get the most comments on the amateur posts.
ReplyDeleteBecause of all the interest, please make sure you support the local shows. Upcoming Events:
August 1st Kenilworth-Parkside Community Day (outdoors)
4300 Anacostia Ave. N. E. 20019 6:00pm.
August 1st Nomis – Kelley Miller Jr. High beginner’s event
August 2nd - Benning Park Community Day (outdoors)
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Ringside Worlds do not mean Sh#&
ReplyDeleteJohn Brown does it just to make money. The only show that matters is the Long Island Championships that are held on August 14th. 15th. and the 16th. 2008.
Title boxing show in Mississppie is the number one show on the planet
ReplyDeleteWhat is the Long Island Championships? Never heard of it. Who do you contact?
ReplyDeletecall me at the shop and i will give u the application for it.
ReplyDeleteits a great even -i went last year as a spectater. boxers from all over especially the east coast.
Long Island tourney registration is over. Registrations due by July 18th. See info below for details:
ReplyDeleteThursday August 14th, Friday August 15th and Saturday August 16th - The LONG ISLAND AMATEUR BOXING CHAMPIONSHIPS will be held at THE FIVE TOWNS COMMUNITY CENTER at 270 Lawrence Avenue in Lawrence, NY 11559. Weigh-ins begin at 5 PM each day, boxing begins at 7 PM each evening. For information contact Michael Carryl at 917-945-3480 or mmac9765@juno.com.
Ticket Prices are $20 if purchased in advance, $25 at the door; $45 for all three days of boxing. Children are $10 per day or $20 for the entire tournament. USA Boxing registered boxers with 2008 stickers who are not boxing in the tournament are $10 per day when passbook is shown. To Purchase tickets call Michael Carryl at 917-945-3480 or Ewart Chance at 347-661-6911.
Please note: The tournament is a non-advancing invitational tournament opened to all boxers registered with USA Boxing. It is open to male and female JOs, novice, open, and master boxers. All senior and master champions will receive championship belts. Runners-up will be awarded a trophy. JO champions and runners-up will receive trophies. CHAMPIONS in the MALE OPEN divisions will also receive Everlast sweatsuits. Attached are applications and waiver forms for the tournament. Mail to: Long Island Amateur Boxing Championships, 568 Wadleigh Ave, West Hempstead, NY 11552.
Reminder: Please fill out ONE APPLICATION AND ONE WAIVER FORM PER BOXER. We expect all athletes and non-athletes participating in the tournament to display good sportsmanship. All applications must be postmarked by JULY 18, 2008. No application will be accepted beyond this deadline.
thank u vary much[ u r vary helpful. we need more fans like u
ReplyDeleteare you with the dc boxing commision
ReplyDeleteNot with the commission, just a amateur boxing fan and parent of boxer. I heard from some boxers in NY about the event and looked it up and saw that the deadline had passed for me. If anyone wants to learn more from people who are involved heavily with amateur boxing go and read up on boxrec.com forum for amateur boxing. I'm not affiliated with the site at all but it has proven to give me access to people who know a lot and can give you good information
ReplyDeleteThe JO Nationals and US Championships lead to national rankings and are a stepping stone to international competition, hence their #1 importance to any boxer wishing to become part of the "elite." All other tournaments offer the chance to gain experience and skills and, to me, none are better than the other except the more entries, the better chance of having more than one bout. Anonymous has done a good job of explaining the tournaments. I think everyone probably has their personal preferance which, of course, they are entitled to.
ReplyDeleteI didn't see anything impressive about the "outstanding fighter of the tourney." As a matter of fact, I think the Judges are bias and we should come up with a more proficient way of judging these fights/boxers. It is unfair that these kids give up a HUGE part of their childhood to get "robbed." Notwithstanding the above, the Judges should be ashamed of themselves...I witnessed one Judges score card to read 25-1, HELLO....what fight was he watching, turns out the kid was from his region....of course.
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