Tonight's "Law and DisOrder" card at the All Star Legacy Gym in Dulles, VA had to be called off. Emergency Medical Technicians have to be at all boxing events and, unfortunately, no EMT's arrived at tonight's card.
The postponed card has a tentative reschedule date of Saturday, March 29. If you have tickets for tonight's card, they will be honored on the 29th.
What happened to Jargal's opponent?
ReplyDeleteJason Jordan simply didn't come to the weigh in.
ReplyDeleteWhat a joke! This shows how bad VA is and these so called wannabe promoters. Come on Gary, call it like it already! This was a rank amateur thing to happen.
ReplyDeleteI agree - in all support of the sport - the Va. shows are bad
ReplyDeleteCome on guys, Get real. Some of biggest/best shows in this area have been in VA. This is only Aftershock's second show. Sometimes things happen outside of a promoter's control. Instead of a "us or them" attitude it would be more beneficial if DC/MD/VA could be civil and act like the close cousins they are and elevate boxing, instead of all the backstabbing. Remember United we stand. Stop drawing these ridiculous posturing lines in the sand.
ReplyDeleteLINDA - this has got to do with the STATE REGULATION - what they allow. Not the promoters, fighters or fans. The commission is awful. That doesn't mean there aren't good fights, promoters, or fans. It simply means the commission sucks. That doesn't mean they ain't nice guys, it just means that compared to the rest, they suck. Thats why guys go to VA...to get a win...to get paid. Promoters go there because they don't have to go through a bunch of red tape. And Photographers go there because they get in free.
ReplyDeleteANONYMOUS,
ReplyDeleteI get in "free" in DC/MD/VA and beyond. Also, for your info 95% of the time I don't get paid a fraction what it cost me to shoot those fights.
In another thread I asked where are the commissions better? What are the differences? I really don't know. So explain it to me. What is an IDEAL commission? I guess this is how this country got started. People not being happy with whatever. You want it better then DEFINE what needs to be improved...just saying this- N- that is shit isn't enough to make changes happen.
YOU have to articulate what is wrong and then you can take steps, if necessary to improve it.
The shows at the patriot center
ReplyDeleteand the shows that left Hook does at springfield and winchester are outstanding and guess what? the virginia commission handles everyone of them Who in the hell is making these crazy comments about the commission. Is it the same old people that are now tired of beating up the promoters and the fighters so now they think it's time to take on the commissions and bad mouth them a while.Why don't you guys grow some gonads,get a life and stop harrassing people who do have a life.
Must be from the same anonymous family as yours...don't see you sharing your gonads.
ReplyDeleteif you can do better throw a show do some match making.make everybody happy.thinks for trying Asim.shit happens.thinks for refunding the ticket
ReplyDeleteJason Jordan Vs Byan would have been a good fight I think alot of people would expect jargal to win but I think it would have been interesting.Jargal's power against
ReplyDeleteJordans boxing ability.
Agreed. Bet there isn't a promoter in any state that hasn't had mishaps on a scale from uncomfortable to abysmal who know how that feels. This is the wrong thread about the commission's role.
ReplyDeleteBoxers react to last night's cancellation.
ReplyDeleteVisit http://dcurbansports.blogspot.com/2008/03/aftershock-fight-card-shocks-beforehand.html for comments and commentary.
Don't see any boxer's comments... says 0 comments.
ReplyDeleteGood thing dc urbansports are on the scene...right...like that even begins to touch what Gary brings every day. Here's DC's big breaking news:
ReplyDeleteFight Canceled Due to Lack of EMT Availability
March 8, 2007 -The boxing event pegged ‘Law and Disorder’ held at the All Star Legacy Training Facility in Dulles, VA was over before it even got started.
Promoted by Asim Hanif, Director of the East-West Gym & Fitness Inc. in Ashburn, VA, the event was canceled due to inability to obtain an emergency medical team (EMT).
DC UrbanSports asked boxers if they’d ever experienced a fight being canceled because of no available EMT. All who were asked said, “No.”
Sympathetic towards Asim, ‘Dangerous’ Dana Dunston talked about the cancellation.
“I feel bad for the promoter. He went out and tried his best to get the fight going for the crowd, and I feel bad for the fans having to come all the way out here, but what can you do? That’s the name of the game sometimes.”
On what’s next for Dana Dunston: “Back in the gym, back to sparring. Getting my body in shape for the next fight.”
Darnell Wilson, 22-6-3, 19 KOs, who said he was well prepared for his match had this to say:
“I’m obviously a little upset about it. I had people come down to watch me and I wanted to show my stuff. I wanted to show my speed.”
“You know, it happens – I think a little honest mistake was made, and it’s a bit disheartening, I tell you. I feel it right now.”
On what’s next for Darnell Wilson: “Expect a really big announcement. I can’t really talk about it, but there will be a really big announcement in the next couple of weeks.”
Wilson hinted about the possibility of a national bout being televised. It is not yet known which network will televise the event.
Jonathan Felton , residing in Stafford, VA says the cancellation was a minor setback.
“We need something in the Virginia area. I’m a fighter myself, I came to support Darnell. I work out with him, Derrick Amos, and I came out to support the local fighters, as well as the fighters from DC. Tonight was a minor setback, but knowing Asim, he’ll bounce back. He always has nice cards.”
When asked if he’d ever seen a fight canceled for lack of medical staff, he said, “Never.” “I’m glad I wasn’t on the card. It shows me anything can happen.”
On what’s next for Jonathan Felton:
Has plans to fight on the mid- August Michaels Eighth Avenue card.
“I’m a free agent right now. So if anyone has any shows coming up, I’m available.”
Worth mentioning.
An upcoming bout features cruiserweight, Adam Harris (10-0), originally from Massachusetts. He has a bout April 4th in Penn, PA, and an April 12 fight in Richmond, VA.
Says Harris, "I’m getting a title fight coming up on June 6th in Miami on ESPN against former heavy weight (now cruiser weight), Castille."
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Asim was not immediately available to comment on last evening's cancellation. We look forward to speaking with him soon to hear his comments, and wish him success with future cards. As the sinage on the wall of All Star Legacy Training facility says, "Never Underestimate The Power of A Dream".
No reason to bash Linda for her comments/questions regarding the ways of the State Athletic Commissions. She does not deal directly with them, so she would have no idea of what they do or do not do to encourage competitive fights.
ReplyDeleteSuffice it to say that Maryland pays close attention to each bout. Pannella will review each fight in depth, contact other commissions where a fighter is from or fought previously to get as good a handle on each fight(er) as he can. He will then either ok the fight outright or take it to his commission if it is a questionable fight or if one of the fighters is questionable. Many commissions will hold to a rule of thumb that if a fighter has lost six in a row or been knocked out three times in a row, that they will not allow the fighter to fight. Pannella holds pretty closely to that rule of thumb, but if you can make a serious case he will consider it.
DC has basically been out of the game for over a year and they have a new commissioner so one hopes that they will be responsible and encourage evenly matched fights. But keep in mind that in DC we have been dealing with a situation where the office had no long distance service, so that they could not get medicals from other states or even contact them. So one hopes that there will be a return to some semblance of an ability to do boxing business in DC sometime soon.
Boxing business is what Virginia is about. As it does in most areas, Virginia is pro business and to that end the commission is about seeing fights happen as frequently as possible. It is very democratic and the restrictions placed on promoters and fighters are less than most jurisdictions in the country. The end result of this is that fighters can fight in the State of Virginia even though they might not be allowed a license in many other states. So you will from time to time see fighters who have either been retired for a while, or fighters that have lost more than six in a row climb through the ropes.
So what it comes down to really is what sort of show or individual fight that the promoter wants to put on. If you charge 100. for a premium ringside ticket and have 1400. tickets for sale, you might want (as well as be able to afford) a better group of fights then a show where the ringside tickets are 40. and the venue seats 600. That is the economics of the sport.
So people can complain about the commissions, but they are really there just to make sure that the promoters follow their regulations. It is the promoters and their matchmakers that are responsible for the quality of the fights. As the Maryland promoters (Ballroom, Baltimore Pro Bouts and Keystone) have been promoting fights for much longer than the Virginia promoters and are regulated more than the newer Virginia promoters, you are bound to see different types of shows there. But as the Virginia promoters do more fights, as their fighters continue to develop and win belts and as their audiences get more sophisticated, I am sure that, regardless of the differences in the state commissions, the shows in Virginia will thrive and succeed and be as competitive as any in the area.
thanks for posting. folks can skip the link process, and read the article right from here.
ReplyDeleteglad YOU'RE on the scene. (hater)
Good & fair explanation Chris. This guy obviously knows what's going on & his posts are very useful
ReplyDeleteBo
Thanks for a great debate on this subject.
ReplyDeleteI think those of you who are criticizing the VA commission seem to forget that three years ago, there was NOTHING going on boxing wise in the Commonwealth of Virginia. You have to give the commission great credit for being as busy as they have been.
As someone has already said, the situation that took place yesterday has rarely happened in VA The majority of the shows in Virginia -- from Springfield to Winchester to Fisherville to Dulles have been good quality shows.
What also seems to be overlooked that the four main promoters in VA -- Scott Farmer, Han Kim, Joe Hensley and now, Asim Hanif Nichols -- seem to have a good working relationship. They work together on each other's shows and last night, both Scott and Joe were at the card to support Asim and Han sent well wishes via BATB.
As far as the Commission is concerned, they are still learning this process. Fan feedback -- CONSTRUCTIVE fan feedback will help them as they continue to learn the process. DC needs this feedback as well, because they are almost starting over from scratch.
First let me say that I deeply regret that the show was cancelled. I apologize to all the fighters, trainers, officials and boxing community who took the time out of their lives to come support our effort.
ReplyDeleteI especially want to express my appreciation to those who offered me words of encouragement.
I know and accept that a lot of people were disappointed. None more than me. I was looking forward to not only a great show for AfterShock but a great show for Virginia.
There will be announcements regarding rescheduling and future shows. YES…WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF QUITTING. We learn and we move forward.
Once again my deepest apologies and my deepest thanks and appreciation for the support many have shown.
Asim
Let me first say that blameing the state of VA for the shows failure is totally wrong, After Shock should have read the required regulations before putting on a show, not only does it say that EMT and a rescue squad ,must be present its is a federal law, why does anyone want to blame the state, this is the first time since the new commission came in over 7 yrs ago that they didnt have a show... this is Aftershocks fault......
ReplyDeleteI hope no one got the impression that I was blaming the commission.
ReplyDeleteI didn't intend to give that impression.
Asim
You know I am so tired of hearing how bad the commission is in Va, first of all to get quality boxers you have to pay for quality boxers, these promoters dont want to spend that kind money to get good fights in, so then what happens, we get crap fights....Virginias fights are only as good as what they give the state to work with, and compareing Va to other states who have not had to totally rebuild the sport is unfair.
ReplyDeleteHey CD,
ReplyDeleteGood interviews.
Thanks Chris,
ReplyDeleteAs usual, I probably shouldn't have even weighed in on the subject. VA boxing commission seems very personable, hardworking and well organized at the fights which is really my only exposure. The whole point with my posts was to get the posters to identify what exactly the public thought was wrong and if those areas actually could use improvement to open the door for the possibility of VA or any Commission for that matter to consider the feedback and use it to make boxing/MMA better.
I don't always initially like criticism about my photography, but it often makes me better.
Thanks, Linda. Saw your pix of the event. They're good.
ReplyDeleteYou know, things like this happen in boxing. Ultimately the Promoter of the show is responsible for everything, every detail of his show. With that said, and even though he is bearing the full brunt of this mix up (financial and otherwise) it's not really Asim's fault. I'm sure he made proper arrangements for the ambulance and they just didn't show up. Simple as that. And of course the show just can't go on without an ambulance on site. As one poster corectly said, that is the word of the law. I've seen shows where the Promoter forgot to bring gloves - and believe it or not, that was in Las Vegas and the show was promoted by a pretty high profile Promoter. There was a show a couple of years ago on ESPN from California. There wasn't a doctor at ringside so the show could not go on. I remember the opening of the show and they said something to the effect of "this is boxing's equivalent to a rain delay". The show was delayed one hour while they showed an old fight and they were only able to only show the main event of the evening when the doctor finally made it to ringside. How about the fights in Maryland a few years ago with Laila Ali? Mother Nature did not cooperate that night for the PPV fight card which was held outside. Asim, we support you and feel for you, I know it's got to be tough right now. I don't know you well but you have always been a gentleman and professional when we have spoken. And that says a lot with the over abundance of pure garbage that is in this game. A couple of observations on my part. The commission pulled the plug on Asim's show at 8:30. I think that was a little too early and I think the commission should have given Asim more time to find an ambulance. Also, think about this for one second. I overhead that Asim had to pay all of the fighters in full - is that fair? I personally don't think it is and I also don't believe the commission statues define this scenario. The only state I am sure of that defines a situation where a fighter is ready, willing, and able to fight and does not fight (although I'm sure they aren't the only state that does this, it's just the only one I know) is New York. The New York State boxing contract says that in this instance the fighter is entitled to at least half of his purse money. I know one thing. In most cases when I contract outside vendors: Ring Rental, Venue Rental, Ambulances, etc. I have a written contract. Of course you always have a contract on the venue. I haven't always had a contract on the ring. I also haven't always had a contract with the ambulance crew. Sometimes I've had a contract and for other shows I have not had a contract. I hope Asim has a contract or something in writing from the crew he requested to be on site for his show. If you have something in writing you can pursue it in a court of law and hopefully recoup the huge amount of money that was lost on Saturday. Hang in there Asim!
ReplyDeleteAn Anonymous Promoter (You figure it out!)
Anon Hater,
ReplyDeleteMiddendorf didn't talk about himself or put Virginia or anyone down. He was objective and brought up some good points.
You sound like the same hater that always jumps on anything he says or does. Being so damn jealous and hateful only makes you miserable and look bad even through the thin disguise of anonymous. Bet a lot of people know who you are anyway. When you can achieve what he has and are half as intelligent about boxing and have enough grit to sign your scardy-cat name, don't waste your time fuming on here, it just amplifies how ridiculous you sound.
willie taylor, needs to give up his boxer to someone who can handle them better.i dont think tracy brewer or jargal is that good of a fighter. he train oridzo who also was not that good.
ReplyDeleterlChris you sound stupid at time going out of your way putting down VA. Name one boxer that fought in VA that did not have a Federal ID which is what you have to have. VA has never ignored a suspension of another state. Name me one time when it happened. Last time I checked you get licensed by a state then you apply for your federal id. At that point most states make you become licensed in that state in order to fight.
ReplyDeleteNow for the great fights in MD it has been a while since I have seen any. Be honest. Boxer fight in this area so they can build a record and hope to move to a big money venue. Why didn't the Wilson - Nwodo fight happen in the beltway?
I think in my opinion Willie Taylor has a couple of good ,talented fighters, he just needs an opportunity to showcase his talents and a local promoter who understands building a GOOD young fighter. everyone has their opinion about a fighters talent but its not always how good a fighter is it is about how good he is marketed and promoted and by the way that fighter Willie had his name was Orazio Robinson.
ReplyDeleteSome people have been around boxing
ReplyDeletefor a year or so and think they are really knowledgeable.Linda you have what seems to be a good heart
and pure motives but you can take what you know about the sport and the promoters and the fighters and
matchmakers and their motives for what they do and say and fit it into a thimble.Again your an asset to the sport but you don't really understand the busniess and the sharks that are in it.Get out of the water before you get eaten.
In all honestly, anon, we need to be grateful that we have relatively new fans like Linda. Her contributions have been inmeasurable. And the fact that she is willing to learn this business should not be overlooked!
ReplyDeleteAgreed Digital,and I didn't say anything bad about her just that she sometimes comments without knowing ,well I'll leave it at that,just without knowing.
ReplyDeleteWhat you say about my knowledge is true anonymous, even about the thimble part. I know I shouldn't comment on here as much as I do, but although my knowledge is limited my interest and love of the sport is great.
ReplyDeleteIt seems the times when I raise the ire of the more knowledgeable old sharks is when I take up for someone they are circling. I have caught sharks (HUGE ones) off the Keys and they don't scare me. I sign my name. I don't put anyone down. I just love boxing. I have a different perspective. That's not always bad.
Sharks don't need to worry about me. It's the bottom feeders - the anonymous that they need to worry about, because a lot of times Anonymous is usually just an Old Boxing Shark that's been around a long time and is more interested in eating their own.
Don't threaten me or try to scare me. I am too old for it. I do love boxing and don't want to alienate myself from it, so for that reason I will TRY and stop commenting so much.
you do talk too much Linda.7-8 comments made by you is just too many. once is enough!
ReplyDeleteWonder how many of the 18-19 Anonymous posts you made - or were made by the same person?
ReplyDeleteJust a message from one of the wannabe promoters that has either promoted or co promoted since 1979.
ReplyDeleteI wonder when I'll get to graduate
to a real promoter.
I don't know if that comment was directed at me as one of the Wannabe's but in Asim's defense he gave it the old college try and this is something that could happen
to any promoter.It is my understanding that he had scheduled the Emt but that they didn't show up.I'll bet that this won't keep him down and that the next show he does will be the bomb.
Scott Farmer
linda better you than to hear what mike sawyer have to say
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ReplyDeleteOn behalf of my friend Mike Sawyer and myself...shove off...spineless, afraid/ashamed?... to admit to who you are... Anonymous.
ReplyDeleteStop baiting me loser.
As a most prominent and respected promoter always good to see your posts Scott Farmer. Too many sharks in the water. Good you are on the scene keepin' it all real.
ReplyDeleteShoot..that last post was by me.
ReplyDeleteSounds like someone wants to hear what I have to say.
ReplyDeleteI say:
Asim, you are destined for big things. I'm glad to hear that this unfortunate mishap has not gotten you down.
Han, Scott, & Joe (can't forget Rachel down in Richmond), keep doing what you're doing.
To the fighters that were supposed to fight, keep in shape b/c something else will come up soon.
Linda, people on this blog that don't appreciate you now will soon have to respect you. Don't bite your tongue for anyone (not that you ever would).
Dave Holland (VA Comm.), the guy may be a little dry, but he is largely responsible for facilitating VA's resurgance in boxing & is nothing but an unbiased professional. He (& the rest of the commission) have always in my eyes made the right calls or at least done what they thought was right.
Digital, keep putting the smackdown on these fools hating. The DMV is on top to stay!
Professionally,
Mike Sawyer
Oh great, now we have Mike Sawyer weighing in on issues and signing them "Professionally, Mike Sawyer".
ReplyDeleteThis is embarassing. A professional would not have put Luther in with Charles Whittaker in the Caymans. A professional would know that Luther should not be fighting and a professional would keep him from fighting so he does not get hurt. An unprofessional manager cares solely about putting some change in his or her pocket and taking a trip to the Cayman Islands. As a former fighter, who, as a manager should care a little bit more about fighters, you just announced to the world, and I hope that fighters in need of managers are paying attention here, that you are a manager starting at the bottom level with the worst ethics and the worst standards possible. You should be ashamed. Fighters, please, please, beware of this guy. He will sell you out in a heart beat.
Mike's professional enough to sign his name. Until you are able to do that simple, noble deed, go find a mirror when you want to sling judgement.
ReplyDeleteI initially thought no way this guy is still fighting but after reading up on him, I think this instance is different, the boxer in question is in a whole class unto himself. It's his choice to fight. If you aren't familiar with him, do some reading. This boxer could probably knock your lights out with a stare.
After what I saw in The Cayman Islands, I knew I'd eventually be trashed on here. Here is my response:
ReplyDeleteI watched Tinky spar 7 rounds with Kay Koroma & then do 3 more on the pads one week before the fight. He looked good. His punches were sharp, his hands were high, & there was no hint of what was to come. He had 6 weeks to train for this fight, was in with a guy with 12 losses, and was getting a VERY healthy payday at this stage in his career, especially after his last performance. Here's a little more information: He didn't train at all for his right on the benefit fight against Jesse Williams (who had just gotten out of Kelly Pavlik's training camp, BTW). For this fight, he did train. He made weight easy, 6 lbs lighter than his last fight. Whoever made the derogatory comment, obviously doesn't know my history with Tinky. I love that dude like a brother. I've known him for 14 years+. I know all of his kids & have held 2 in my lap. I talk to his father & his fiance on a regular basis. If you'd read my post after the results were up, you'd know that it's all but official that he's hanging them up. He's moving on & he's lucky enough to have friends & family that support him regardless of his decision. Regarding the fight, he came out completely flat. It doesn't help that he was a little shook when his trainer refused to come on the trip because of other obligations (unknown to anyone until the night before we left). Regardless, he looked slow & timid & hardly threw a punch. I jumped on the ring apron immediately when he went down even though he rose quickly. Whoever you are who made the anonymous comment, understand that there are other variables that influenced our decision to take this fight. Bottom line, if tinky had upset this guy, we were in line for a title eliminator (& a MUCH bigger payday for Tinky). Risk vs. reward, period! That said, I would have NEVER let him fight if I didn't think he was well-prepared & ready to fight.
To the person who posted the last comment, you seem like someone a level above the random dumbass hater on this blog who spits acid at anyone trying to make moves & therefore, I felt inclined to respond. I did what I thought I should with the information that I had at the time. I stand by my decision. Anyone who attacks my character on this blog or in real life, does not know me, does not know where my heart is, & does not know why I do the things that I do. Anyone who truly knows me or has a true measure of my character, knows I would never chance getting someone hurt for my own personal gain. Believe me when I say, I do not take a manager's share.
PROFESSIONALLY,
Mike Sawyer
I will "weigh in" on this argument as I have had discussions with several people about Luther, know Charles Whittaker very well, know the way those shows in Caymans are run etc.
ReplyDeleteLuther should not be fighting now, nor should he have taken this fight. I agree completely with anonymous and his statements to that fact.
The issue here is that as a manager there has to be some sort of reality check. There was no way that Luther was going to win that fight. The risk reward issue is meaningless because there was no chance that he would win. He would not win a decision in the Caymans against Charles. He is more than a home town hero there, he is their biggest national star. First, they are not going to allow anyone in who could beat Charles and if he came close they would not let it happen. So admit the fact that the fight was taken for money. Whether it was your choice and your pocketbook or that of Luther, if he is your friend and you are friends of his family for goodness sake, yuo do not put him in that fight. I called Raul Alvarez who is the matchmaker for the fights in the Cayman and said what were you thinking. I told him in no uncertain terms that Charles could have really hurt Luther and that he should never have made that fight let alone consider Luther for any fight.
So Mike, if a situation like that comes up, make some calls, call the people that know Luther, call people that know what sort of fighter Whittaker is, ask what the chances are of winning in the Caymans and then make a decision. If you had done that, then you would not have taken the fight and would not have put your fighter at risk.
And that is the reason that I am saying something here (even though I will be trashed for even saying something), but you have a responsibility as a manager to make the right choices for your fighter. And those choices are about protecting him as well as taking opportunities if the risk reward is worth it. In this case there was no possibility of reward, so all you were doing was putting your fighter at risk.
Chris, I respect your opinion (especially because you signed your name). We knew we needed the knockout to win down there & that's what we trained for. EVERYTHING was out in the open between myself, Tinky, & his trainer for this fight (who refused to come the night before we left). If a mistake was made, it was mine & I accept that. However, the anonymous blogger attacked my character & called me an "unprofessional manager cares solely about putting some change in his or her pocket and taking a trip to the Cayman Islands". This is far from the truth. I aknowledge that you are far more experienced than I & we have certainly had our disagreements in the past. However, what I have never & would never do, is attack you as a person or make a claim that you wanted to get someone hurt for your own financial gain. Unless of course, I knew for a fact that you did. And then, I'd sign my name. I appreciate you weighing in & giving your opinion, I truly do. And I accept resonsibility if a mistake was made. After all, it was my decision to take the fight.
ReplyDeleteProfessionally,
Mike Sawyer
my recommendation, for what its worth, is the next time a fight like this comes up, find someone or a couple of people that you can call and ask to get the real low down on what is being offered so that you can be sure that your fighter knows exactloy what he or she is getting into. The boxing world is such a small world, it is easy to find a couple of people who will be glad to give you answers. And over time you will realize that some of thos epeople are giving you answers because they have their own agenda and that others are more than willing to give you the straight scoop in hopes that when they are offered a figh in our area that they can call you and ask you for the straight story.
ReplyDeleteChris
Peco against Dorin Spivey.
ReplyDeleteThat is crazy
Haven't you known Peco a long time too.
is this the boxing along the beltway blog? or the chris mitt and mike sawyer - along the beltway blog?
ReplyDeleteAsim,
ReplyDeleteWhen is your next show? Are you still having it on 3/29?
I doubt we'll make the 29th. We're aiming for mid April. I hope to have more substantial news soon. Thanks for asking.
ReplyDeleteAsim
Mike Sawyer would make a great politician...
ReplyDeleteChris Middendorf... mmmmmm...
I can beat Spivy. Tell him take the fight and I'll prove it. Talk to my manager Mike Sawyer and make the fight. Dean beat him and I use to spar Dean a lot and do fine.
ReplyDeletePekoe
I will be ready for the fight on april 12th. I am training already.
ReplyDeleteMike will get me a tape of him and I will beat Spivy.
Pekoe
pekoe,you got hit to hard in your last fight
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